Packer fans are likely going to need to reset their tolerance for INT's. Hopefully not back to Favre tolerance, but what we watched with Rodgers and ball protection was an NFL outlier
@The Heckler posted:It is funny to me that many talking heads in the media such as Cowturd and others saying that the Packers will be horrendous this year. I believe this team is very talented and like you said I think there are enough veterans to provide leadership.
I don't think this team is a Super Bowl contender but I do think they will surprise people. I just have this feeling that the team will really rally behind Love and in some ways I bet they are relieved that the Rodgers circus is over and they can just play as a team.
I'm not making any predictions other than I feel they'll be better than 8-8, and it feels like some of the pressure has been lifted from the team and the fans. I'm excited to see what this team can do, and will watch every game faithfully as I always have. No matter the record, I'm just going to enjoy the ride.
@Goalline posted:The idiot is the one drawing conclusions that Love was attempting to trash talk the bears. He wasn’t. A Bears fan asked him to wish bears fans a happy Father’s Day which he did because he really is a nice kid. To see bears fans lose their shit over this because he is not trash talking properly is evidence of the PTSD you all have from the last 30 years. BOO! Sorry, did I make you jump?
They need it to get amped up. Nothing else for Bears fans to get excited over. As usual, the Packers provide them the entertainment. Sad little Bears fans.
@Goldie posted:#12 played last year like he really didn’t give a shit and his numbers showed it……… 3,695 Yrds: TD’s 26: INT 12: QBR 39.3. Oh yah, those are MVP numbers. NOT. 12 INT’s that’s the stat that jumps out. I still feel kinda bad he’s gone, but then I look at these numbers and am feeling better at him being outta Green Bay.
If it only it happened a year sooner. Oh well, that ship has sailed. Can't wait for the new season to start!
@Harry Manback posted:They need it to get amped up. Nothing else for Bears fans to get excited over. As usual, the Packers provide them the entertainment. Sad little Bears fans.
Every preseason, yes. Then the real games start.
sorry, kinda a long segment……..and can’t copy. It’s from my smart news app.
The Aaron Rodgers Era with the Green Bay Packers didn’t end well. The team finished 8-9, missed the playoffs, and the QB has his worst season in years. However, NFL insider Albert Breer says Rodgers’ new team, the New York Jets, isn’t concerned about the QB because they think his “level of engagement” is much higher this year.
There were a lot of reasons for the subpar Packers season in 2022. The team had several rookie receivers, the defense underperformed, and the team’s 39-year-old QB finally seemed to show some age.
However, age may have had nothing to do worth it. As the MMQB’s Albert Breer told The Ringer’s Kevin Clark (h/t Peter Bukowski on Twitter) the Jets “think they’re getting a different player than the Packers got last year because of the level of engagement.”
The QB infamously demanded a trade on the eve of the 2021 NFL Draft but still ended up playing two more seasons in Green Bay. While that first year after the trade request ended with Rodgers winning his second consecutive NFL MVP Award, the second season wasn’t good.
Rodgers skipped all of the team’s offseason workouts in the 2022 offseason and sat out most of training camp as well. When he started the season, his lack of chemistry with his young WRs and some rust on the signal-caller was evident.
And it’s not just Breer and his Jets sources who think Rodgers mailed it in during his final Packers season. Breer also noted that Green Bay believes that if Rodgers had put in more effort ahead of the 2022 season, the outcome would have been much better.
Since the trade that sent Aaron Rodgers from the Packers to the Jets, he’s been much more engaged in team activities, both on and off the field.
(we’ve all said this, I thought this was better explained though)
@Goldie posted:#12 played last year like he really didn’t give a shit and his numbers showed it……… 3,695 Yrds: TD’s 26: INT 12: QBR 39.3. ...
It was a sub-par season for ARod, to say the least.
I could live with those numbers for a season, if I knew that was his best effort.
But I really don't think it was.
The INTs that bothered me most were the ones vs Detoilet, as EC Pack mentioned.
He either couldn't read their safety (Kerby Joseph), or was ignoring him, but a rookie tore his ass up, to the tune of 3 INTs. That could've easily been 5 (a 4th was nullified by a penalty, a 5th was dropped).
There's NO excuse for that. 
That's why I'm glad the fucker is gone and hope the Jets finish 4-13.
@Packiderm posted:That's why I'm glad the fucker is gone and hope the Jets finish 4-13.
Don’t really care what the Jets record is, I just want the Pack to beat it. ♥️ 💚 💛
Let me get this straight. So AR gets a 50 million dollar a year contract before last season. Then according to Breer, he plays like he does not care and was not invested in the team. Then he gets traded to the Jets and now the Jets think he will be better this year because he did not care last year. So now they are on the hook for over 100 million in the next two years thinking he really cares and the Jets will succeed because he cares. Give me a break. The guys is going on 40 years old. Last year it showed. I do not believe that he did not care what was going on. He just could not do what he used to do. His decision making suffered from age not from young players. At the end he reminded me of the Frozen Favre in the Giants playoff game. Age wins again.
On a side note to all that, people think because he did not work with the young-uns in the early offseason and because of that the team regressed. He did not work with the young Wrs and the first pass of the season last year to Christian Watson showed how that non work bit them in the ass.. You know that dime he threw 50 yards down field against the Vikings and Christian attacked it like Edward Scissorhands. If only he had been here during the off-season and cared he might have thrown a better pass.
@Floridarob posted:...You know that dime he threw 50 yards down field against the Vikings and Christian attacked it like Edward Scissorhands.
When...
The...
Guy lets it fly and hits 9 right in stride,
That's Amore.
@Floridarob posted:Let me get this straight. So AR gets a 50 million dollar a year contract before last season. Then according to Breer, he plays like he does not care and was not invested in the team. Then he gets traded to the Jets and now the Jets think he will be better this year because he did not care last year. So now they are on the hook for over 100 million in the next two years thinking he really cares and the Jets will succeed because he cares. Give me a break. The guys is going on 40 years old. Last year it showed. I do not believe that he did not care what was going on. He just could not do what he used to do. His decision making suffered from age not from young players. At the end he reminded me of the Frozen Favre in the Giants playoff game. Age wins again.
On a side note to all that, people think because he did not work with the young-uns in the early offseason and because of that the team regressed. He did not work with the young Wrs and the first pass of the season last year to Christian Watson showed how that non work bit them in the ass.. You know that dime he threw 50 yards down field against the Vikings and Christian attacked it like Edward Scissorhands. If only he had been here during the off-season and cared he might have thrown a better pass.
Agree, Bob. Whether he mailed it in or not, they're not getting MVP Rodgers. If he did mail it in, they got themselves a QB who's willing to do that. Not the kind of guy I'd want on my team, but the Jets haven't made it to the playoffs in like 100 years, so there's that.
@Goldie posted:Don’t really care what the Jets record is, I just want the Pack to beat it. ♥️ 💚 💛
My dream scenario is for 12 to play 65% of their snaps and for them to have the worst record in football. Hello number one pick!😅
I know, super unlikely.
And the Packers trade the number one pick for a kings ransom because 'Love is Here to Stay'.
All because Rodgers is a true Packer to the end 🥰
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Packer fans are likely going to need to reset their tolerance for INT's. Hopefully not back to Favre tolerance, but what we watched with Rodgers and ball protection was an NFL outlier
Packer fans are likely going to need to reset their tolerance for holding the ball too long and playing sand lot football or taking a sack.
@BrainDed posted:Not impossible playing in that division.
The Pats are far from a great team though.
It's going to be tough for them to suck more than the Chicago team.
@Fedya posted:It's going to be tough for them to suck more than the Chicago team.
That's funny. Any chance you'd like to make a bet?
@ObjectiveBearsFan187 posted:That's funny. Any chance you'd like to make a bet?
Look at this clown. Dude, if you’ve been betting on the Bears all these years no way you have any money left.
@Goldie posted:sorry, kinda a long segment……..and can’t copy. It’s from my smart news app.
The Aaron Rodgers Era with the Green Bay Packers didn’t end well. The team finished 8-9, missed the playoffs, and the QB has his worst season in years. However, NFL insider Albert Breer says Rodgers’ new team, the New York Jets, isn’t concerned about the QB because they think his “level of engagement” is much higher this year.
And this is why I'm hoping fans don't look at his 2023 season in New York as a "what if" scenario if he stayed in Green Bay. He needed/wanted a change, and he'll probably put more effort into 2023 with the Jets than if he was still in Green Bay.
https://www.si.com/nfl/packers...lieve-in-jordan-love
More optimism.
And here's the complementary piece (same author) with the case for pessimism.
How long are we going to give ♥️ before we all start yelling for a new QB???? 2 Seasons?? 3??? I just want him to look like a NFL QB ya know?? Not a lot of INT’s a reasonable amount of TD’s. More wins than losses, a couple of playoff appearances. Is that really asking to much of him?? Respectable. ♥️💛💚
R E L A X…..if there is a good team around him, including coaches he will be just fine.
There will without a doubt be a group of fans that will be calling for the backup QB the second Love struggles. I would bet good money they will pop up within a month if he isn't playing like the 2 guys that came before him.
I agree with Pikes Peak that if there is a good team around him and solid coaching I think he will be just fine. As I said before I would bet good money the rest of the team will rally behind him because they are glad the Rodgers circus is over.
@CUPackFan posted:And this is why I'm hoping fans don't look at his 2023 season in New York as a "what if" scenario if he stayed in Green Bay. He needed/wanted a change, and he'll probably put more effort into 2023 with the Jets than if he was still in Green Bay.
I don't think there's any doubt he's rejuvenated. I don't think there's a reason to think he won't play well. But like you said, simply remaining in GB wasn't getting him jacked anymore. I think his real challenge will be deciding on a second year in NY, and whether he can maintain that adrenaline after a likely playoff exit should they make the postseason. Maybe the bright lights will sustain him. But it will also make clear the reason he continues playing. Does he want another ring or another mvp? At this point, that motive is anyone's guess.
Jordan Love, Aaron Jones, Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks, Jeff Cotton and Danny Etling among the Packers working out together in California. Some pics from Jones: pic.twitter.com/x1HghKKAXx
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) July 14, 2023
Yeah, Aaron Jones has been posting pictures on Instagram. LOVE that RB. Hope he's a Packer for life.
@michiganjoe posted:Jordan Love, Aaron Jones, Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks, Jeff Cotton and Danny Etling among the Packers working out together in California. Some pics from Jones: pic.twitter.com/x1HghKKAXx
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) July 14, 2023
What a difference a year makes.
I know he's a vet, but how dare Rasul miss OTAs.