Official 2018 Draft Thread

McGlinchey is going to be a good Pro. But he’d be more of a need pick at 14 instead of BPA. There will be better talent on the board than him. If GB really likes him and can trade down a few spots and pick up an extra 2nd rounder, fine. 

I agree you could probably trade down and take McGlinchey, but I would not hate that move

Looks like the kind of OT who will be a reliable starter in the league similar to Bulaga. Probably could be a pro bowl OG, which is a consideration. Start him at RG while we still have Bul and kick him out to RT when Bul is done. Wouldn’t hate that. Not that I want GB to emulate Dallas, but there’s something to be said for the emphasis they’ve put on the OL. We have a really good group of DL, I’d like GB to be known as a team the controls the LOS on both sides of the ball.

Agree! We control LOS on both sides of the ball and I like our chances against anyone.

Grave Digger posted:

One of the draft guys on Twitter was saying that Landry was rated higher by NFL teams than fans/draft sites believe and Fitzpatrick is rated lower. 

It sounds like there was a major disconnect between the coaches and the FO in terms of player acquisition and Murphy is working to correct that. I think Pettine, at least in the short term, will get the guys he wants. Who knows if that means success, but I think finding football players is going to be emphasized over players with “potential”. 

Landry was one of the best edge rushers in the FBS in 2016.

Last season he hurt his ankle early on, and although he played through it, his production suffered.

Wouldn't pitch a fit if he was the pick at 14.

PFF has him as their top rated Edge Rusher:

https://www.profootballfocus.c...r-the-2018-nfl-draft

Grave Digger posted:

Josh Norris Mock Draft has the Packers passing on Minkah Fitz and opting for Harold Landry. Love Landry's speed off the edge, but if the lines of communication between coaching staff and FO are truly open then I can't imagine the coaches would prefer more of a project in Landry over a complete player like Fitz. Fitz fills a major hole in coverage is just a dam good football player. I wouldn't be unhappy with Landry, he's an outstanding speed rusher, but that hole in the back end of the D is glaring. 

I agree with Gb that Landry is something of a one trick pony ala KGB many years ago.  BTW those many years ago I prayed GB would draft him and his 12 sack senior season because I knew he would be a later pick (rnd 5).  I think that while Landry could help- his skill set and size really limit him and should he get dinged up think "Too Small Jamal" from the Sherman era.  Should GB select a pass rusher at 14 he should arrive in good health and not be soo dependent on a physical skill that could evaporate with one bum ankle!!

My Fanspeak mock (version 1.0) : Because of the run on QB's, a valuable player drops into the Packer's lap...

Who else was available after Ward?  not sold on him.  Also think they need a higher WR.  Thanks for the efforts.

Grave Digger posted:

Looks like the kind of OT who will be a reliable starter in the league similar to Bulaga. Probably could be a pro bowl OG, which is a consideration. Start him at RG while we still have Bul and kick him out to RT when Bul is done. Wouldn’t hate that. Not that I want GB to emulate Dallas, but there’s something to be said for the emphasis they’ve put on the OL. We have a really good group of DL, I’d like GB to be known as a team the controls the LOS on both sides of the ball.

He's 6-foot-8 and lacks strength. Playing him at guard is only a consideration in your mind.

And? Did I post that as a fact or just a random thought. You only show up to tell people they're stupid, it's sad and lame. Why don't you just go away.

DH13 posted:

Who else was available after Ward?  not sold on him.  Also think they need a higher WR.  Thanks for the efforts.

Davenport was on the board....he actually went to New England at the end of the round...I doubt that will happen. Connor Williams, Landry, Vita Vea...those are the mains ones I had to choose from. The one other guy on the board there, who gets a lot of discussion, was Calvin Ridley, who went in the 2nd round to the Colts after I took Vander Esch.

Grave Digger posted:

And? Did I post that as a fact or just a random thought. You only show up to tell people they're stupid, it's sad and lame. Why don't you just go away.

Pretty much just you.

You're lucky I have a job and a life, or I'd be here a lot more often.

Why don't you just block me if my "know it all" posts irritate you so much. Your job and life are probably very sad and that's why you troll one person on the internet.

The vikingitis seems to be infecting others.

#domcaperssucks

Who?

There are always teams moving up or trading to get some player on Draft day, as well. The entire first round draft order can be changed with one or two trades on Draft day. 

Pack88 posted:

Grave Digger posted:

Josh Norris Mock Draft has the Packers passing on Minkah Fitz and opting for Harold Landry. Love Landry's speed off the edge, but if the lines of communication between coaching staff and FO are truly open then I can't imagine the coaches would prefer more of a project in Landry over a complete player like Fitz. Fitz fills a major hole in coverage is just a dam good football player. I wouldn't be unhappy with Landry, he's an outstanding speed rusher, but that hole in the back end of the D is glaring. 

I agree with Gb that Landry is something of a one trick pony ala KGB many years ago.  BTW those many years ago I prayed GB would draft him and his 12 sack senior season because I knew he would be a later pick (rnd 5).  I think that while Landry could help- his skill set and size really limit him and should he get dinged up think "Too Small Jamal" from the Sherman era.  Should GB select a pass rusher at 14 he should arrive in good health and not be soo dependent on a physical skill that could evaporate with one bum ankle!!

The only EDGE player I can see who might be there at 14 worthy of the pick  would have to be Davenport. I've read some really good reviews of him, some comparing him to Jadeveon Clowney, although the reviewer said that Davenport has much better technique coming out of college than Clowney did.

Come on .... Clowney was the SEC Defensive POY, the overall #1 choice in the draft. Davenport has talent but he played at Texas - San Antonio, which is a universe away from the SEC in the college football world. Davenport's week at Senior Bowl vs. upgraded talent was "uneven". Heard the kid interviewed & loved him, humble, willing to work. However, it remains to be seen just what Pettine & the Packers think of him & if they feel he is worthy of going as high as 14. 

I'm just reporting what I read...looking for the article, but I didn't bookmark it.

ammo posted:

174: R5P37

P MICHAEL DICKSON

TEXAS

If Gute drafts a punter in the 5th, or at all,  he won't survive the year. 

Dickson's a good punter....best one in the draft....

FLPACKER posted:

Come on .... Clowney was the SEC Defensive POY, the overall #1 choice in the draft. Davenport has talent but he played at Texas - San Antonio, which is a universe away from the SEC in the college football world. Davenport's week at Senior Bowl vs. upgraded talent was "uneven". Heard the kid interviewed & loved him, humble, willing to work. However, it remains to be seen just what Pettine & the Packers think of him & if they feel he is worthy of going as high as 14. 

Here's the article....just food for thought, worth gossiping about. If I was an expert, I'd be working in the front office, right? Instead, I get to do mock drafts and pretend I'm an expert...lol

https://www.sbnation.com/platf...down-scouting-report

Packmeister posted:

My Fanspeak mock (version 1.0) : Because of the run on QB's, a valuable player drops into the Packer's lap...

14: R1P14

CB DENZEL WARD

OHIO STATE

45: R2P13

LB LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH

BOISE STATE

76: R3P12

TE MIKE GESICKI

PENN STATE

101: R4P1

S TERRELL EDMUNDS

VIRGINIA TECH

133: R4P33

DL NATHAN SHEPHERD

FORT HAYS STATE

138: R5P1

G COLBY GOSSETT

APPALACHIAN STATE

172: R5P35

LB ANDRE SMITH

NORTH CAROLINA

174: R5P37

P MICHAEL DICKSON

TEXAS

186: R6P12

DL B.J. HILL

NORTH CAROLINA STATE

207: R6P33

WR ANTONIO CALLAWAY

FLORIDA

232: R7P14

QB TANNER LEE

NEBRASKA

239: R7P21

EDGE JACOB PUGH

FLORIDA STATE

If you want, you can see how it played out here:  https://fanspeak.com/onthecloc...#/.WsHD8UARths.email

That really falls apart after the third round, IMO.  Gutekunst will take more than one corner, they need the bodies. Edmunds is fine as a prospect, I like him, but he's the same guy as Clinton-Dix and Jones. 

Shepherd is a project and that's a little high, using their board, Isaac Yiadom and Kalen Ballage are better players in that area. With Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson, Lowry and Adams already on board unless it's a high-round stud (like Vea) it's more likely to be a late-round prospect who can get to the practice squad, if needed.

Gossett, maybe, but Dickson and Smith?  Yuck! Andre Smith is Jake Ryan-lite. A flier on Holton Hill would make more sense. I'd think Gutekunst will be looking to bring in at least three corners in the draft. 

My knowledge of the later round picks is limited...plus Fanspeak doesn't let you take forever to choose, either. I'd still stay with picking Dickson, although probably not with the 1st pick in the 5th. 

Aren't you guys just a little tired of seeing squib kicks from our punting game, and guys who can't nail it down inside the 20, better yet, the 10-yard line? I sure am.

Watch a warm-weather punter like Dickson screw it up at Lambeau. 

That's not a fair comment...find me a better punter, then.

I think we have a pretty good punter right now. Of course with out Janis!!!! as a gunner.......................

I thought the team was going in another direction...is Schum still the punter?

Vogel definitely had a good start for a UDFA that came out of nowhere. 7th in net, 5th in FC, 4th in TB, 6th in returns, 0 blocks, 0 TDs. He needs to improve his directional punting and dropping balls inside the 20, but I thought he had a good start for a rookie UDFA. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t bring in competition, but I don’t think we need to burn a draft pick on a Punter.

Of course the main issue with Fanspeak (many of the big boards being kind of garbage aside) is no trades (unless you buy the Premium version). 

For example: Taking a non-corner in the first, here's a fairly common second round in the last few I've run:

#Washington DT Vita Vea is visiting with the Tampa Bay #Bucs today on a pre-draft visit, source said. Then, he’s off to the #Packers tomorrow. TB picks No. 7, GB picks 14.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 4, 2018

Adding him would make a formidable defensive front, but I don't see the team going in that direction with that pick...who knows...they might. They wouldn't invite him if they weren't interested.

Unless GB knows more about Montravius Adams than they're letting on Vea doesn't make sense. 

Smells like smoke.

Vea is the one guy I worry about being a real injury risk.  Upside is outstanding, but I can see him being an "8 games a year" kinda guy.  

If we went D-line, I really like Payne

Packmeister posted:

ammo posted:

174: R5P37

P MICHAEL DICKSON

TEXAS

If Gute drafts a punter in the 5th, or at all,  he won't survive the year. 

Dickson's a good punter....best one in the draft....

.....aaaaaand he's still a punter.  No.

Only way they should draft a punter is if it's their last 7th rounder & 12th selection overall. That's it....that's the list!

Don't think Vea will make it down to #14 but stranger things have happened.

They probably need to bring in four or five d-backs with a legitimate shot at the roster, especially hedging a Clinton-Dix move next offseason.

They also probably need two legitimate TEs, especially one who can block. 

They could use two Edge guys to potentially replace Matthews and Perry next season. 

They could really use an ILB who can run and play very soon. 

They also need a legitimate outside WR pick. 

They also could use an O-lineman who can either start right away or be a reliable backup C early on. 

A young DE would help also. 

That's basically Gutekunst having to hit on every pick just to fill all the holes. 

That doesn't leave a pick for a punter. 

We're not going to punt anyway