Official 2018 Draft Thread

Fandame posted:

I was pasting in King and House as both starters. Without House, we only have King. I think Jones could, with some coaching and discipline, be really good but we still need someone else on the outside.

Randall

SanDiegoPackFan posted:

PackFoo posted:

....He's basically the same size as Nick Barnett and Ray Lewis were coming out of college.

...before they starting using "vitamins" to get even stronger and bigger.

You mean deer antler spray?

King and Randall outside works for me. I'd like to see what a healthy Rollins can do too.

Fandame posted:

I was pasting in King and House as both starters. Without House, we only have King. I think Jones could, with some coaching and discipline, be really good but we still need someone else on the outside.

Don't underestimate Demarious Randall.

I'm also higher on Rollins than most folks are.

I'm hopeful the new defensive philosophy will really help out

Oh dang. Forgot about Randall. But if we got another young guy, it would help against injuries and for the future...

I don't think Jones is a true cb.  Square peg round hole.  Randall ideally in the slot but dbs rotate around so much these days it may not matter.  Rollins had no speed to give so I'm not sure what is future is after a popped Achilles. 

Yes, can never have too many DB's

Grave Digger posted:

I really like this kid Harold Landry out of Boston College. Complete demon off the edge, made a lot of Tackles look like they were standing still. Would be strong pairing with Perry, giving Clay a break or letting him play some MLB or SLB.

I'm concerned he has some Fackrell in him. Landry is lean and he looked really soft against the run when I saw him. He definitely has a burst though. 

Herschel posted:

Grave Digger posted:

I really like this kid Harold Landry out of Boston College. Complete demon off the edge, made a lot of Tackles look like they were standing still. Would be strong pairing with Perry, giving Clay a break or letting him play some MLB or SLB.

I'm concerned he has some Fackrell in him. Landry is lean and he looked really soft against the run when I saw him. He definitely has a burst though. 

I think he's a second round pick at best, but I could be wrong.. For that very reason.

YATittle posted:

How about Ward CB from Ohio State?

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/ne...iants-170315072.html

Think pass rusher is a higher priority. Or talented TE

Ward's shorter than Randall and Rollins, who are both shorter than ideal already. 

What if the guard Quenton Nelson from Notre Dame is there at 14? That would solidify the middle of the line for the next few years. BPA would definitely fit. 

Not worth it to take a guard that high, especially when guard is likely in a comfortable place with Taylor signing his new deal and McCray likely taking over on the right side.If Murphy and Spriggs are coming along fine they may well look at a backup center on Day 3 but otherwise not really touch the line. 

Nothing wrong with drafting a RT if a good one is sitting there. Bulaga ain't exactly the picture of health. 

Best.FootballPlayer.Available.

From here to eternity

I'm not exactly in the Murphy/Spriggs corner either but who knows how the front office feels as they're a sunk cost.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

Nothing wrong with drafting a RT if a good one is sitting there. Bulaga ain't exactly the picture of health. 

Best.FootballPlayer.Available.

From here to eternity

I think Mike McGlinchey of Notre Dame would be a solid, NFL ready OT for us. If we go OT in the 1st round and picked McGlinchey, I 'd have no complaints. Connor Williams from Texas or Orlando Brown from Oklahoma would also be good choices, but of the 3, I like McGlinchey the best. I think one or maybe two,  of these three may drop to the 2nd Round. 

Well, at least I don't have to check out Harold Landry on YouTube. I now know for sure he can't play.

Fandame posted:

Oh dang. Forgot about Randall. But if we got another young guy, it would help against injuries and for the future...

One of the biggest reasons why I'm excited for the DC change is sorting the talent.  The current defensive player make up is like a ****ty, cheap ass box of chocolates.  Sure, they all look like chocolate and there are some good ones in there but there's also the god damn orange cream and maple masquerading as edible.  

Let's see a Harry and David's truffle defense with a few excellent pieces of candy accompanied by some healthy fruit.  

Goodson is orange cream.  Let's hope Rollins is caramel you didn't see in the corner.  

I Gump'd the **** out of this post.  

Herschel posted:

YATittle posted:

How about Ward CB from Ohio State?

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/ne...iants-170315072.html

Think pass rusher is a higher priority. Or talented TE

Ward's shorter than Randall and Rollins, who are both shorter than ideal already. 

As you all know I live in O$U country and have the misfortune of seeing all of their games.  I would stay away from him he is short and the O$U pass defense got consistently burned all year and Ward was as well. 

I am with Mrtundra I think if you could get that OT from Notre Dame I wouldn't complain either.  Bulaga has been great but is an injury waiting to happen unfortunately.

Herschel posted:

I'm not exactly in the Murphy/Spriggs corner either but who knows how the front office feels as they're a sunk cost.

They need to suck it up on the Spriggs failure.  I'd keep him as a back up for now and maybe he becomes serviceable but they have to get another legit tackle.  

I don't classify Spriggs as a failure. At least not yet. Get healthy, get more snaps. 

He started to repair his reputation....before he got hurt. Even OL sometimes need a few years before they figure out the pro game.

heyward posted:

Well, at least I don't have to check out Harold Landry on YouTube. I now know for sure he can't play.

Probably for the best. I don't think you would know what you were looking at even if you did watch him.

To lose the field time he has, I'd give it another camp/season. He has shown improvement. 

"You don't know. You think you know, but you really don't, and you never will know."

Grave Digger posted:

heyward posted:

Well, at least I don't have to check out Harold Landry on YouTube. I now know for sure he can't play.

Probably for the best. I don't think you would know what you were looking at even if you did watch him.

This coming from the genius who questioned J.J. Watt's ability to play in a certain scheme. But I'll give you this - you sure make it seem like you know what you're talking about. That's something.

Come on man, I expected a better comeback than that. You're slipping. At least you sarcastically called me genius, that's something. 

Brainwashed Boris posted:

Nothing wrong with drafting a RT if a good one is sitting there. Bulaga ain't exactly the picture of health. 

Best.FootballPlayer.Available.

From here to eternity

I agree entirely. What will be interesting is if one of the top 2 consensus QBs (Darnold or Rosen) would fall to #14. It's very unlikely, but obviously no one thought Rodgers would fall to #24 in 2005.

There a lot of other parallels to 2005. You have a head coach at least a little bit on the hot seat who is now working with a new GM. Favre was 35 when they drafted Rodgers, Rodgers turns 35 later this year.

MM and Rodgers need Gutekunst to add some impact players now as their window is closing. But if TT would have had that same attitude in 2005, we'd have been much worse off in the long term (although Mike Sherman and Favre would have benefitted from adding a guy like Roddy White or Heath Miller in 2005- both were drafted within the next 6 picks after Rodgers).  

Grave Digger posted:

Come on man, I expected a better comeback than that. You're slipping. At least you sarcastically called me genius, that's something. 

He didn't even misspell X4 it

MichiganPacker posted:

There a lot of other parallels to 2005. 

The cupboard is not quite as bare.

Hungry5 posted:

MichiganPacker posted:

There a lot of other parallels to 2005. 

The cupboard is not quite as bare.

The 2005 team still had sufficient talent to be a lot better than 4-12. I would argue there was just as much talent on that team as there was on the 2017 team. 

QB: Favre

RB: Ahman Green coming off an 1100 yard season

WR: Driver was still in his prime

TE: Bubba Franks - not a superstar but a better version of RichRod

OL: Chad Clifton still in his prime at LT, Mark Tauscher at RT, they did let both Rivera and Wahle go after 2004 (not unlike the Sitton/Lang moves the last 2 years)

DL: Aaron Kampmann was Pro Bowl level. KGB was coming off a 13.5 sack year and would get another 8.5 in 2005. Cullen Jenkins was 24 years old.

LB: Nick Barnett was a good LB at this point.  

CB: Al Harris was better than any CB we have now.

The main difference between 2004 and 2005 was how much Favre sucked in 2005. He was pissed off about drafting Rodgers and not doing anything to help the team in free agency that year and he played like it.

2004: Favre had 30 TDs and 17 interceptions.

2005: Favre had 20 TDs and 29 interceptions. 29!!

Ahman got hurt too, but if Favre would have played with any sort of discipline, there is no way that team should have won fewer than 8 or 9 games. Favre played like he didn't give a **** anymore.

Bringing in Adriam Klemm and Matt O'Dwyer to start at OG is a lot worse than Lane Taylor and Jahri Evans.

MichiganPacker posted:

Hungry5 posted:

MichiganPacker posted:

There a lot of other parallels to 2005. 

The cupboard is not quite as bare.

The 2005 team still had sufficient talent to be a lot better than 4-12. I would argue there was just as much talent on that team as there was on the 2017 team. 

QB: Favre

RB: Ahman Green coming off an 1100 yard season

WR: Driver was still in his prime

TE: Bubba Franks - not a superstar but a better version of RichRod

OL: Chad Clifton still in his prime at LT, Mark Tauscher at RT, they did let both Rivera and Wahle go after 2004 (not unlike the Sitton/Lang moves the last 2 years)

DL: Aaron Kampmann was Pro Bowl level. KGB was coming off a 13.5 sack year and would get another 8.5 in 2005. Cullen Jenkins was 24 years old.

LB: Nick Barnett was a good LB at this point.  

CB: Al Harris was better than any CB we have now.

The main difference between 2004 and 2005 was how much Favre sucked in 2005. He was pissed off about drafting Rodgers and not doing anything to help the team in free agency that year and he played like it.

2004: Favre had 30 TDs and 17 interceptions.

2005: Favre had 20 TDs and 29 interceptions. 29!!

Ahman got hurt too, but if Favre would have played with any sort of discipline, there is no way that team should have won fewer than 8 or 9 games. Favre played like he didn't give a **** anymore.

Javon Walker was another factor in that season. He had 1382 receiving yards and 12 TDs in 2004. Then he decided stage a holdout in training camp for more money, tore his ACL in week 1 at Detroit.

Antonio Chatman, Donald Driver, Javon Walker, Robert Ferguson, Taco Wallace, Rod Gardner, Chad Lucas, Andrae Thurman, Jamal Jones

Bubba Franks, Donald Lee, David Martin, Ben Steele, Troy Humphrey

Henderson, Najeh Davenport, Tony Fisher, Ahman Green, Samkon Gado, Noah Herron

Mike Hawkins, Al Harris, Joey Thomas, Ahmad Carroll, Collins, Mark Roman, Bigby, Marviel Underwood, 

KGB, Kampman, Poppinga, Paris Lennon, Barnett, Na'il Diggs

I'll take the 2017 counterparts.

But samkon gado!

Hungry5 posted:

I'll take the 2017 counterparts.

....and it isn't even CLOSE

Just did a Fansided mock. If nothing else, I've won the name draft:

Rusty posted:

 

 

45: R2P13

EDGE OGBONNIA OKORONKWO

OKLAHOMA

 

76: R3P12 

CB TONY BROWN

ALABAMA

 

 

 

 

This would be pretty sweet. 

MichiganPacker posted:

2005: Favre had 20 TDs and 29 interceptions. 29!!

 

I know it took a few years but he was auditioning for the Vikings in 2005. 

The old silver fox had em all fooled too. Took em to the brink of the Super Bowl then yanked the carpet out. 

Eye ❤️ Favre in 💜 (purple)

DH13 posted:

He started to repair his reputation....before he got hurt. Even OL sometimes need a few years before they figure out the pro game.

That boy need roids.