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Thanks all for the well wishes.  Surgery was uneventful and should make a quick recovery.  Some pain right now, but is tolerable.   Sure is tough doing everything one handed, especially when right handed and that is the one operated on. 

ammo posted:

Thanks all for the well wishes.  Surgery was uneventful and should make a quick recovery.  Some pain right now, but is tolerable.   Sure is tough doing everything one handed, especially when right handed and that is the one operated on. 

Hire some help.

Speedy recovery!

Hope you're getting healed up Ammo! I had to get a cortisone shot in both wrists earlier this year for inflammation. Worked pretty well for a while, but I just need to take better care of them.

I just noticed that Herb Adderley's cousin Nasir Adderley (Delaware) is in the draft this year and actually looks pretty good. If he runs well (estimated in the 4.5's) he could be a nice pick in R2 or R3, definitely has ball skills. Gotta get this kid in GB for the family connection alone. 

Henry posted:

Reading that article on Gurgleurps made me think of one thing.  That 4th rounder for HaHa could turn into a legit Olineman.  Completely worth it.

True - Like Buck 🍒 or....

A D-Lineman. Like Mike Daniels.

Gems everywhere.

Unless they see a future pro-bowler in Lock, I can't imagine Gutey passing on this guy 

Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama

C'mon. The Pack has gotta get some safety help.

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Landon Collins. FA signing. 

Everyone has spent a week talking about keeping TE's in to block and quick throws and the need to get Rodgers outside the pocket and how much Spriggs sucks (he does) while asking for more help on defense in the draft. 

Greatest impact players are 5 slobs that make things easier for everyone else. Including guys that play defense. 

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Sure the game is won in the trenches. Agree 100%

Just at that spot in the draft. (Hey, Pack might draft higher) I'm not certain an OL or DL is worth it.

Value....value value value.....just like when Jaire was drafted. Use the draft capital correctly. 

One thing that's reassuring, unlike Ted, Gutenschnitzel  appears more then willing to use FA to fill holes. And not 4th tier FA's who are afterthoughts 2 months into FA, he looks like he's willing to make a splash early. Depending on cuts, the Packers should be really flush with cap space and cash. They could fill some key holes with proven players. 

Early look at 2019 FA's.

There's some good ones on that list. Tyrann Mathieu would also look good at safety here. 

I don't know that Gutekunst will dive in earlier than Thompson did. He made a splash with Graham, but that hasn't worked out. That result could effect his approach in the future. 

Yeah. Same way I'm gun-shy of DL from FLA. St.

If you remember correctly....HaHa was a pro-bowler at one point before he decided to start "protecting this investment" by simply going through the motions on the gridiron.

The guess here is either some moronic team pays him big in FA (& regrets it) or HaHa retires. 

I'd also like a shot at Earl Thomas

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It's not coincidence that some of the greatest offensive lines in NFL history played for the guy who's trophy is handed out every year. 

There's going to be a team that assembles a world class OL and breaks bread on defenses predicated to stopping a passing league. And that team will set records on time of possession while neutering edge rushing demons hell bent on getting upfield. 

What I'm trying to say is this. If Lombardi was coaching today he'd look at the NFL landscape and he'd build another seven blocks of granite and road grade the entire league underground while letting his QB collect a few of his namesake trophies. 

ChilliJon posted:

It's not coincidence that some of the greatest offensive lines in NFL history played for the guy who's trophy is handed out every year. 

There's going to be a team that assembles a world class OL and breaks bread on defenses predicated to stopping a passing league. And that team will set records on time of possession while neutering edge rushing demons hell bent on getting upfield. 

What I'm trying to say is this. If Lombardi was coaching today he'd look at the NFL landscape and he'd build another seven blocks of granite and road grade the entire league underground while letting his QB collect a few of his namesake trophies. 

Great post. Just my stupid opinion but I think that philosophy will be back sooner than we think.  Many seem to think that air raid type of offenses will take over but I bet that within a few years you will see it swing back to more traditional pro style offenses.   Now I am not saying it will be a Wing T formation with 3 yards and a cloud of dust but more of a balanced style of offense to keep the teams who use the spread/read option off the field.

Hungry5 posted:

I don't know that Gutekunst will dive in earlier than Thompson did. He made a splash with Graham, but that hasn't worked out. That result could effect his approach in the future. 

People thought due to the Bennett fiasco, and Gute being a disciple of Ted, he'd shy away from making a big signing in FA. He didn't. He signed Graham. He also surprised many when he made a bid to go get Kyle Fuller and signed him to an offer sheet. Yes, the Bears matched, but that's something Ted would have likely never even attempted. Then there's the Mo Wilkerson signing too. 

The Packers may be as much as 50 million under the cap in 2019 depending on who's released. Cobb, Perry, Matthews, yes Graham who's in reality a one year deal, Bulaga and even Crosby. All big money contracts or guys making a lot at their positions that could be cut. 

The NFL requires teams to spend I believe 89% of their cap on players. There are no Packer 2019 free agents that are priority signings. None. Sad because that says a lot about Ted's recent drafts. 

JMO, but I see Gutey filling at least 2 of their holes with week one FA signings. 

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Jimmy Graham is on pace for 60 catches, 700 yards, and 3 TDs. We'd all like him to be more off an All-Pro level in the passing game, but it's unfair to call him a bust. He's overpaid - not a bust. We're paying him about 10 million a year - he should probably be about half that.

He was always a terrible blocker, so anyone who expected anything different there had never really watched him play before.

 

ChilliJon posted:

It's not coincidence that some of the greatest offensive lines in NFL history played for the guy who's trophy is handed out every year. 

There's going to be a team that assembles a world class OL and breaks bread on defenses predicated to stopping a passing league. And that team will set records on time of possession while neutering edge rushing demons hell bent on getting upfield. 

What I'm trying to say is this. If Lombardi was coaching today he'd look at the NFL landscape and he'd build another seven blocks of granite and road grade the entire league underground while letting his QB collect a few of his namesake trophies. 

I think he was part of the seven blocks of granite at Fordham, he didn't build it. 

I agree that a dominant OL makes everything work smoother, but what you're describing you want is exactly what Dallas has done and it's not translated into real success. That's not to say OL shouldn't be a priority, but it's not THE priority. Every SB winner from the last 10 years has featured a franchise QB and a dominant defense. Invest in the defense, find 4 other Jaire Alexanders and we will win a SB. 

Grave Digger posted:
ChilliJon posted:

It's not coincidence that some of the greatest offensive lines in NFL history played for the guy who's trophy is handed out every year. 

There's going to be a team that assembles a world class OL and breaks bread on defenses predicated to stopping a passing league. And that team will set records on time of possession while neutering edge rushing demons hell bent on getting upfield. 

What I'm trying to say is this. If Lombardi was coaching today he'd look at the NFL landscape and he'd build another seven blocks of granite and road grade the entire league underground while letting his QB collect a few of his namesake trophies. 

I think he was part of the seven blocks of granite at Fordham, he didn't build it. 

I agree that a dominant OL makes everything work smoother, but what you're describing you want is exactly what Dallas has done and it's not translated into real success. That's not to say OL shouldn't be a priority, but it's not THE priority. Every SB winner from the last 10 years has featured a franchise QB and a dominant defense. Invest in the defense, find 4 other Jaire Alexanders and we will win a SB. 

Hey thanks for the Fordham update. I’d missed that the first 7 times I watched his documentary. You’re the best. I meant he’d build a great..... OL today based..... on past....... **** it. 

Dallas hasn’t translated because Dak isn’t Rodgers? Is that what you meant to say. Or did you mean to say Dak sucks? 

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