@bvan posted:I want to see some more of Benkert.
It seemed like he brought a contagious energy to the O,
He did play quick and made some nice decisions early on but the wheels kind of fell off after that. Love was a little slower on his decision making but played a lot better than Benkert overall.
CB Kabion Ento moving up the charts it appears. He and Eric Stokes were the No. 2s ahead of Josh Jackson. The pair received reps with the 1s as part of the corner rotation.
— Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) August 16, 2021
If Jordan love isn't able to go this preseason again we are potentially looking at handing the offense over in 2022 to a dude who has played 2 quarters of preseason football in two full seasons.
No bueno, he needs these live reps and the org needs to be able to evaluate him.
I thought Rodgers' contract restructuring made it highly likely that he's going to be playing for GB in 2022?
@Fedya posted:I thought Rodgers' contract restructuring made it highly likely that he's going to be playing for GB in 2022?
Nope. 2022 is now an albatross. He counts $46 million vs the 2022 cap and the Packers are already way over that cap with almost all of their WR's and Tonyan not under contract.
His contract is basically play out 2021 then decide if you want to stay or go. If he stays they need to come up with a new contract into his 40's.
@PackerHawk posted:Nope. 2022 is now an albatross. He counts $46 million vs the 2022 cap and the Packers are already way over that cap with almost all of their WR's and Tonyan not under contract.
His contract is basically play out 2021 then decide if you want to stay or go. If he stays they need to come up with a new contract into his 40's.
Z. Smith also counts 28 million against the cap in 2022 (and has "only" a 12 million dead cap hit if they cut him).
P. Smith counts 20 million (with a 7 million dead cap hit).
Cobb counts almost 10 million (with a 3 million dead cap hit).
Amos is 12 million (and 4 million dead cap hit).
Rodgers is 46 million (but "only" 26 million in dead cap).
If you add Bakh's 23 million cap charge (he's 40 million to cut next year) and K. Clarks (21 million vs. 15 to cut) , the Packers are on the hook for about 160 million in cap charges just 7 guys). If they move on from both Smiths, Cobb, Amos, and Rodgers they are looking at saving about 74 million in cap charges (but getting stuck with 52 million in dead cap charges).
The plan all along was just to expect 2022 to be a transition year. They have 254 million in cap charges right now without factoring in any money for D. Adams or the next draft class. The cap is set for 208 million. They are going to have to find a way to cut 50 million from the cap charges. Some of that might be waiting until after July 1 and splitting the dead cap hits over 2 years. Doing that with Rodgers gets them 2/3rds of the way there in 2022 (13 million dead cap in 2022 and 2023 vs. a 46 million cap hit in 2022.
Thanks. For some reason I thought the financial reckoning came at the start of the 2023 league year.
GREEN BAY, Wis. – The Green Bay Packers have to trim their 90-man roster to 85 by 3 p.m. Tuesday. 2 of the 5.
offensive lineman Jon Dietzen
punter Ryan Winslow
Prior to the 2021 NFL regular season, all 32 teams must meet three roster-cut deadlines set by the league:
Aaron is making a list, checking it twice. He’ll call Gutey later with his picks.
@skully posted:Prior to the 2021 NFL regular season, all 32 teams must meet three roster-cut deadlines set by the league:
- Tuesday, August 17: Down to 85
- Tuesday, August 24: Down to 80
- Tuesday, August 31: Down to 53
That's just stupid! Any knob knows the coaching staff and FO already has their 53 picked out and ready to go for the opener already.
Injuries and outstanding performances may alter the plan.
In second team period, Eric Stokes gets first rep across from Jaire Alexander. He’s lined up over Davante Adams, and Aaron Rodgers targets him. Same thing that’s happened all camp, except this time Stokes jumps an out route and breaks up the pass.
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) August 16, 2021
The rookie is getting better.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:Z. Smith also counts 28 million against the cap in 2022 (and has "only" a 12 million dead cap hit if they cut him).
P. Smith counts 20 million (with a 7 million dead cap hit).
Cobb counts almost 10 million (with a 3 million dead cap hit).
Amos is 12 million (and 4 million dead cap hit).
Rodgers is 46 million (but "only" 26 million in dead cap).
If you add Bakh's 23 million cap charge (he's 40 million to cut next year) and K. Clarks (21 million vs. 15 to cut) , the Packers are on the hook for about 160 million in cap charges just 7 guys). If they move on from both Smiths, Cobb, Amos, and Rodgers they are looking at saving about 74 million in cap charges (but getting stuck with 52 million in dead cap charges).
The plan all along was just to expect 2022 to be a transition year. They have 254 million in cap charges right now without factoring in any money for D. Adams or the next draft class. The cap is set for 208 million. They are going to have to find a way to cut 50 million from the cap charges. Some of that might be waiting until after July 1 and splitting the dead cap hits over 2 years. Doing that with Rodgers gets them 2/3rds of the way there in 2022 (13 million dead cap in 2022 and 2023 vs. a 46 million cap hit in 2022.
Yikes!! So we are basically approaching cap hell and will be losing a bunch of our best players?
Something tells me if they win a Super Bowl it's not going to be much of an issue.
@skully posted:GREEN BAY, Wis. – The Green Bay Packers have to trim their 90-man roster to 85 by 3 p.m. Tuesday. 2 of the 5.
offensive lineman Jon Dietzen
punter Ryan Winslow
Huh, I guess it's all in with Opie in his contract season. Might need to spend a 2nd round pick on a punter in 2022.
@PackerHawk posted:Huh, I guess it's all in with Opie in his contract season. Might need to spend a 2nd round pick on a punter in 2022.
By the way, fans can attend the joint practices on Wednesday and Thursday. Then that’s it. Rest of camp is closed to public.
Sweet, that's when they will start the install of the two QB system for 2021.
Tebow is available, The Tebow experiment is over in Jacksonville after one preseason game
They cut Tebow? Despite all those crushing blocks he threw?
He had his hour and fifteen minutes of slobbering announcers already.
New CB? Anyone know anything about Yiadom? Other than goodbye Josh Jackson?
JAckson should go in the next cut
@PackerHawk posted:New CB? Anyone know anything about Yiadom? Other than goodbye Josh Jackson?
From comments: He tackles well and is okay in zone, but it’s still a weird trade, CB is one of the deepest positions for GB. Jackson’s gone for sure now; maybe they can trade him for a kicking tee.
Started 10 games for Giants last year .....I know some hate on PFF, but in three years he has not had a grade above 56 (which was Kevin King's grade last season). Not a glowing review from Giants' writer
He's a core STer on the worst ST unit for the past decade.
@FLPACKER posted:Started 10 games for Giants last year .....I know some hate on PFF, but in three years he has not had a grade above 56 (which was Kevin King's grade last season). Not a glowing review from Giants' writer
Journeyman at best but it's still better than Jackson.
Good use of that 10 million.
According to Demovsky compensation is Josh Jackson.
Players both teams were likely to cut.
Makes sense now. Trade away your bust instead of cutting him then cut the guy you got in return.
The high round turd swap. Seems to be a theme. I'm not complaining. Trying to see if your collective turds benefit from a change of scenery and scheme first before getting ganked off the roster is worth it.
Considering the amount of slot CBs that are supposedly needed for this D, Yiadom sounds like a somewhat better fit than Jackson.
@YATittle posted:From comments: He tackles well and is okay in zone, but it’s still a weird trade, CB is one of the deepest positions for GB. Jackson’s gone for sure now; maybe they can trade him for a kicking tee.
I don't think I'd call the position deep if King is one of your starters.
Reminds me of a trade years ago with the Eagles. We had a first round bust pick John Michels and they had their own first round bust Jon Harris. Trade em and cut em a few weeks later. What bust? No, we traded him.
I thought Jackson’s skills would translate better than they did. Teams figured him out pretty quickly that he couldn’t simply sit back or play off of or against NFL quality receivers and make plays. Margin for error is much less.
Change the scenery and see where it goes. The new guy would be hard pressed to look or play worse than JJ.
The only hope I have is maybe the Packers will pick up some salary cap pocket change from this deal.
I'm glad Jackson is gone. Saturday night, I saw him as a player that just didn't care. Very similar to HHCD's last year or two in Green Bay.
A guy can be a bad player, he might struggle, or he can get toasted by an opponent time and again, but when he looks like he's not even trying... f 'em.
@PackerHawk posted:Reminds me of a trade years ago with the Eagles. We had a first round bust pick John Michels and they had their own first round bust Jon Harris. Trade em and cut em a few weeks later. What bust? No, we traded him.
Kizer for Randall.
The new guy is supposed to be good in press coverage and shit in zone. Maybe if they have a plan to use him just in press coverage he can have some kind of short term value.
@Henry posted:Kizer for Randall.
Yeah. Except Randall actually played well enough for the Browns to take his 5th year option. Now he's a fringe roster/PS guy in Seattle.
Solid trade. I liked Yiadom coming out as a press corner and a likely solid special teamer. His issues in zone weren’t exactly a secret and it’s a cheap dart to throw. Meanwhile Jackson’s issues in man weren’t a surprise either and yet he also sucked in zone as well as offering bupkis on special teams. Well worth a shot.
