@FLPACKER posted:DeJean has to overcome the whole "white guys aren't fast enough to play DB" stereotype, much like McCaffrey did at RB. This kid is very athletic
reminds me of another dunkin DB
Georgia OT Amarius Mims has the highest ceiling of any lineman in the 2024 NFL Draft, a scouting report:
— NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) February 18, 2024
✅ Hyper-elite power profile
✅ Hyper-elite frame (6’7, 340, 35in arms)
✅ Elite movement for his size
✅ Cerebral pass protector
✅ Smooth initial sets
✅ Infinite upside… pic.twitter.com/eYbxl0fzrM
If he's as good as @NFL_DF thinks.....no way he's there at 25. There are LOTS of teams that need OT starting with the Jets.
Most likely need to move up to get him if he's as good as advertised.
@Boris posted:Georgia OT Amarius Mims has the highest ceiling of any lineman in the 2024 NFL Draft, a scouting report:
— NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) February 18, 2024
✅ Hyper-elite power profile
✅ Hyper-elite frame (6’7, 340, 35in arms)
✅ Elite movement for his size
✅ Cerebral pass protector
✅ Smooth initial sets
✅ Infinite upside… pic.twitter.com/eYbxl0fzrM
Max Planck would like to disagree with the infinite upside. 
@Boris posted:If he's as good as @NFL_DF thinks.....no way he's there at 25. There are LOTS of teams that need OT starting with the Jets.
Most likely need to move up to get him if he's as good as advertised.
Generally, athletic OTs, pass rushers, and QBs with infinite upside do not fall in the draft. Usually it's the opposite - they get overdrafted b/c they position is so important and the thought of getting a top 5 player blinds them to the reality that the athleticism will never match the on-field play.
The OTs that do fall are the unathletic "technicians", ie: David Bakhtiari. This dude seems like the Mekhi Becton type, where some team is going to absolutely fall in love with the athleticism, size, and infinite upside and take him top 10. But we'll see.
@Boris posted:Georgia OT Amarius Mims has the highest ceiling of any lineman in the 2024 NFL Draft, a scouting report:
— NFL Draft Files (@NFL_DF) February 18, 2024
✅ Hyper-elite power profile
✅ Hyper-elite frame (6’7, 340, 35in arms)
✅ Elite movement for his size
✅ Cerebral pass protector
✅ Smooth initial sets
✅ Infinite upside… pic.twitter.com/eYbxl0fzrM
Yes please.
@YATittle posted:He could be there at 25....
He was there at the Packers pick at #25, in some of the mocks I have done. I'm not sure Gute goes for an OL with that 1st round pick, as I have read he and the staff are looking for OL in the mid-later rounds, for whatever that is worth. It would be nice to get a stud, early, though. I still feel a Safety like Kinchens, Nubin or CBs like Dejean, Arnold will be our first pick and maybe also be the position we go after with our 2nd pick, especially when Walker and Tom have played so well, at the OT spots.
I’ve heard he has a high football IQ, but I have seen no reason for that opinion.
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Look at the cluster of elite athletes the Packers have drafted early
That might offer a hint for 2024.
Deguara was 8.66?!?!? He plays more like 1.66
Classic tweener. Deguara isn't really big or strong or fast enough to make a really good TE, and he's not strong enough or explosive enough to make a good fullback (which nobody uses anyway). SF has Juszczyk who's the same size as Deguara at FB, but he's a lot more explosive and remembers to block. I think MLF wanted Deguara to be the Jusz of GB, but he never grabbed onto the role. Deguara hasn't shown that he can play at a high level consistently; in fact, most of us would settle for Deguara playing at an average level most of the time.
It also depends on where you classify a guy. Van Ness has a great RAS for a DL, for example, but as a LB it’s much lower relative to other players at that position.
Sometimes an outlier number also gets a hit. Jaime’s height was a “Red flag” iirc, and knocked his down a bit and Karl Brooks took a big hit because of a poor vertical(?, going by memory) and was otherwise decent.
@Herschel posted:It also depends on where you classify a guy. Van Ness has a great RAS for a DL, for example, but as a LB it’s much lower relative to other players at that position.
Sometimes an outlier number also gets a hit. Jaime’s height was a “Red flag” iirc, and knocked his down a bit and Karl Brooks took a big hit because of a poor vertical(?, going by memory) and was otherwise decent.
He was also so much better at Iowa with his hand in the dirt. Really looking for a step up this year.
Draft experts: who do like as an RB?
I hope they find another variation on Aaron Jones: good runner, receiver and blocker.
Guys I like:
- Blake Corum
- Trey Benson
- Ray Davis
- Jaylen Wright
- Will Shipley
- Dylan Laube
- Cody Schrader
- Isaiah Davis
GB Front office needs to replace AJ Dillon and what he represents to the MLF offense. When Jones or other diminutive backs are on the field, the DC will typically respond with nickle defense.
When AJ was on the field, you'd see DCs responding with heavier personnel - and that's what MLF wants to see. Because then he can dictate to the defense instead of the other way around
Throwing against a heavier defensive group is easier and gives the match-up advantage to the Packers. If the DC says: " effU -I'm putting my nickle defense out there", then you can gash them in the power running game.
Its an important part of the offensive strategery for MLF.
So when looking at draftable RBs going forward, I'd think that power back role is still pretty important for this offense. Need a replacement for Jones too, but I think filling the Dillon role is more pressing in 2024.
Our offense is not as potent with Dillon as it is with Jones. Jones is the game-breaker. We need two Jonesey's and a decent FB/H-Back.
With the defense transitioning to a 4-3, albeit they're still in nickel a lot of the time, I found myself wondering how that changes the personnel requirements. It factors in when I'm doing a mock draft, for instance, where a d-lineman or an edge might now be a different type of player. So, I looked, and I found this article. I thought y'all might enjoy it.
Maybe this is a lack of football knowledge but I don't understand why Dillion shouldn't be the FB/H-Back instead of Deguara? Dillion is 10 pounds heaver, at least as good of a pass protector/blocker, is a threat to run the ball and has almost twice the receptions and yards. Draft a Jones type back to replace Dillion as the 2nd RB option.
Hope we get a decent fullback in the late rounds of the draft.
@Eddie posted:Maybe this is a lack of football knowledge but I don't understand why Dillion shouldn't be the FB/H-Back instead of Deguara? Dillion is 10 pounds heaver, at least as good of a pass protector/blocker, is a threat to run the ball and has almost twice the receptions and yards. Draft a Jones type back to replace Dillion as the 2nd RB option.
Good point. I agree.
@Eddie posted:Maybe this is a lack of football knowledge but I don't understand why Dillion shouldn't be the FB/H-Back instead of Deguara? Dillion is 10 pounds heaver, at least as good of a pass protector/blocker, is a threat to run the ball and has almost twice the receptions and yards. Draft a Jones type back to replace Dillion as the 2nd RB option.
Sounds like solid football knowledge to me 🤷♂️
@Packmeister posted:Guys I like:
- Blake Corum
- Trey Benson
- Ray Davis
- Jaylen Wright
- Will Shipley
- Dylan Laube
- Cody Schrader
- Isaiah Davis
I don’t get the Corum hype, tbh. He’s a good college RB but pretty pedestrian as a pro prospect, kind of like Brent Moss was. He’s not big, likely lacks adequate burst and lacks an elite trait. Running hard with decent vision was enough in the NCAA, but the pros is a whole other level. My guess is he’ll go later than many expect.
Benson, on the other hand, I think has better burst than his reputation says.
One name to keep an eye on: Isaac Guerendo. He’ll go late, he’s on the older side, but he has burst and low mileage. He could br a Raheem Mostert type with a little more wiggle.
@Satori posted:GB Front office needs to replace AJ Dillon
Just how undervalued are runningbacks? Maybe we get one via free agency. What if they are also a passing threat?
enough with your pronouns
@Packmeister posted:Guys I like:
- Blake Corum
- Trey Benson
- Ray Davis
- Jaylen Wright
- Will Shipley
- Dylan Laube
- Cody Schrader
- Isaiah Davis
Audric Estime.
@Herschel posted:I don’t get the Corum hype, tbh. He’s a good college RB but pretty pedestrian as a pro prospect, kind of like Brent Moss was. He’s not big, likely lacks adequate burst and lacks an elite trait. Running hard with decent vision was enough in the NCAA, but the pros is a whole other level. My guess is he’ll go later than many expect.
Benson, on the other hand, I think has better burst than his reputation says.
One name to keep an eye on: Isaac Guerendo. He’ll go late, he’s on the older side, but he has burst and low mileage. He could br a Raheem Mostert type with a little more wiggle.
Agree on Corum.
Maybe it's time to make that run for Marshawn Lynch.
Make that Marshawn Lloyd in the middle rounds and I'm intrigued.
I don't get the Corum thing either. UM lists him at 5 foot 8 and 213 lbs. So that means he is probably more like 5 foot 6 and 200 soaking wet.
I have no clue if he came out for the draft but I would be more inclined to take his team mate Donavan Edwards. He is just as fast, is decently physical, and quite a bit bigger.
@Eddie posted:Maybe this is a lack of football knowledge but I don't understand why Dillion shouldn't be the FB/H-Back instead of Deguara? Dillion is 10 pounds heaver, at least as good of a pass protector/blocker, is a threat to run the ball and has almost twice the receptions and yards. Draft a Jones type back to replace Dillion as the 2nd RB option.
Money is the usual answer