@Pikes Peak posted:By any chance does your spouse have Jay Wrights phone number? If so call him, we need a coach in both a Madison and Milwaukee.
She has had all the basketball players in class (including Jalen Brunson who spoke well of her in an interview) and met Jay Wright several times. But sorry, no phone number! ðĒ
@PA green & gold posted:She has had all the basketball players in class (including Jalen Brunson who spoke well of her in an interview) and met Jay Wright several times. But sorry, no phone number! ðĒ
Who cares about those dumdums. Does she know Lucy Olsen
https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/...t-keep-everybody-525
Hope at least Newman is finally gone.
@Chongo posted:Lots of good quality RB with very good size/speed combos. There aren't any elite RB IMO, but a group of about 5-7 guys who would be difference makers for the Packers. The drop off after that is severe...there will be no Aaron Jones type guys in this draft.
Order of preference for me for the Packers...
1. Jaylen Wright, Tennessee
2. Trey Benson, Florida State
3. Isaac Guerendo, Louisville
4. Bucky Irving, Oregon
5. Will Shipley, Clemson
6. Tyrone Tracy, Purdue
7. Marshawn Lloyd, USC
After that, I just don't see anyone worth getting excited about for the Packers. Sorry Badger fans, I think Braelon Allen is Fool's Gold in this scheme. He is better suited to another team.
What about Audric Estime?
From Brugler:
Audric Estime RB6 3rd-4th round
STRENGTHS: Built like a linebacker with broad shoulders, yoked-up arms/chest and a thick lower half âĶ runs with effective tempo and vision to find slivers of space at the line of scrimmage âĶ stays square getting through downhill cuts with light feet for well-timed lateral cuts âĶ his rumbling and urgent acceleration ignites explosive plays (ranked No. 3 in the FBS with 14 rushes of 20-plus yards in 2023) âĶ steady inside run power with active leg churn âĶ wonât go down easily and stays afloat versus off-angled tackle attempts, because of his body strength and balance âĶ unsurprisingly, lives in the weight room (7 percent body fat) âĶ put the ball on the ground in the first quarter of the 2023 opener (and was benched), but that was his only fumble last season âĶ received just 26 targets i n his career â but caught all 26 (zero drops) âĶ NFL scouts say he is coachable with the mental and physical toughness required at the position âĶ a regular on kickoff-return coverages âĶ productive 2023 season, becoming just the fifth player in Notre Dame history to surpass 1,300 rushing yards in a season âĶ his 6.39 yards per carry in 2023 was No. 1 in the FBS among running backs with 200-plus carries.
WEAKNESSES: High cut and runs with hints of tightness in his hips âĶ full-speed cuts are more rounded than sharp âĶ inconsistent start/stop skills, hurting his ability to make sudden direction changes âĶ routes show signs of rigidity, and he needs to expand his receiving skills âĶ has the natural build and strength to be an asset in pass protection, but he can be caught flat-footed and needs to refine his punch timing âĶ made a conscious effort to improve his ball security throughout the 2023 season , but he was still guilty at times of exposing the ball âĶ didnât miss game s because of injury, but his penchant for extra contact will create durability concerns.
SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Notre Dame, EstimÃĐ was the lead back in offensive coordinator Gerad Parkerâs multiple -run scheme. After playing behind Kyren Williams and others as a freshman, he led the Irish in rushing each of the last two seasons (6.2 yards per c arry) and set the single-season school record with 18 rushing touchdowns in 2023. (His 29 rushing touchdowns over the last two seasons were the third most in the FBS). With his hulking physique, EstimÃĐ squares his pads to the line of scrimmage and gets downhill with the leg drive to run through contact (averaged 4.27 yards after contact in 2023, fourth best in the FBS). Unlike most runners his size, he also can run with finesse. With the run patience to set up blocks, he can either speed through gaps or downshift and sidestep defenders with lateral agility. Overall, EstimÃĐ has the build and run power of a downhill grinder but the vision and cut acceleration of a smaller back, givi ng him RB1 potential for an NFL team (best in a gap scheme). His body type, run talent and promise on passing downs are reminiscent of former Seattle Seahawksâ RB Chris Carson
Forever Audric
@Badgeman posted:The thing about Guerendo ... while he has all-pro speed and is a very intelligent kid, he was constantly hurt in his earlier years in Madison. Couldn't catch a break..I can't remember, and am too lazy to look, how long he was at UW, so maybe he played his way through the always-hurt stage of his younger years.
If Packers medical staff clears him, and they are probably the most conservative group in the league, then he will have addressed those concerns.
If not, he will not be drafted by the Packers in any round IMO.
Thanks for that info...I was not aware of his injury woes.
@Chongo posted:was not aware of his injury woes.
Ewe will never make it in this business
No thanks to Estime. There just doesn't seem to be much juice there, especially if they want some burner ability. They already have a bigger, faster version of him in Dillon. (videos are all pretty short)
Estime is maybe a slower version of:
Or smaller, slightly slower version of
Estime's top 5 plays of 2023 were against the local Electricians, Plumbers and Drywallers Apprentice Guilds.
@Chongo posted:If Packers medical staff clears him, and they are probably the most conservative group in the league, then he will have addressed those concerns.
If not, he will not be drafted by the Packers in any round IMO.
Thanks for that info...I was not aware of his injury woes.
Further, when Guerendo was at WI, there was another running back on the roster. We're all familiar with Jonathon Taylor.
@Iowacheese posted:Ewe will never make it in this business
I am the Paul Blart of real draft professionals.
@Herschel posted:No thanks to Estime. There just doesn't seem to be much juice there, especially if they want some burner ability. They already have a bigger, faster version of him in Dillon. (videos are all pretty short)
Yeah I was a hard pass on Estime before his awful testing...the tape alone scared me. Dillion is WAY more athletic and his only prayer is to reinvent himself as Kyle Juszczyk. Estime is going to have a nice career in the UFL or Canaduh.
For never Audriv
Another L take from the Dime Store Matt Millen, Brian Ball-licker...
.@UCLAFootball @laiatu_latu is the best defensive player in this #NFLDraft2024 and its not close. Can he be the next TJ? #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/O9o2Dn4fqf
â Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) April 19, 2024
Latu to TJ Watt? I mean, I guess they're about the same size and straight-line speed, but Watt is as ridiculously agile and bendy as Clay Matthews was.
I hope the draft 'falls' in a way that's advantageous to the Packers, and that allows them to take a chance on Melton.
Good football genes in that family.
My corner back hopefulls are Melton and Roderick green.
@YATittle posted:https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/...t-keep-everybody-525
Hope at least Newman is finally gone.
We've been told this draft is big for CB and OL
It all depends on how the draft falls next Thursday - Saturday.
Stokes is interesting because....
As long as Stokes is HEALTHY....he makes this team.
As for Newman..... hopefully they can replenish the depth on the OL. Protect the QB
Forget the TayTay stuff.... ROMES leg circumference?!??
Wow these Taylor Swift tweetsâĶ.ppl really spend hours parsing through the tiniest details and coming up with fan fiction based mostly on projection huh
â Mina Kimes (@minakimes) April 19, 2024
ANYWAY hereâs why Rome Odunzeâs leg circumference means heâs gonna be the next Larry Fitzgerald
Should I start a 2025 Draft thread already??
Rumor has it, that the intention for the 2025 draft in Green Bay is to honor the bike tradition and have each of the first round draft picks ride bikes alongside a child from the home state of each team on night one. ðē ð ðĨđ
â Rachel Christine (@RachieRach1992) April 20, 2024
The Guys are discussing some sleeper type players that will be later in the draft.
New First Draft with @MelKiperESPN:
â Field Yates (@FieldYates) April 19, 2024
Value plays. From Round 1 to Day 3.
We discuss a bunch of em!
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@Herschel posted:No thanks to Estime. There just doesn't seem to be much juice there, especially if they want some burner ability. They already have a bigger, faster version of him in Dillon. (videos are all pretty short)
Estime is maybe a slower version of:
Or smaller, slightly slower version of
Estime's top 5 plays of 2023 were against the local Electricians, Plumbers and Drywallers Apprentice Guilds.
Don't really care what the RAS score was, I know what I saw on gamedays. He has football speed for a guy his size - had the third most "explosive" runs of 20+ yards in all of college football last year and he's rarely stopped by initial contact.
@Badgeman posted:I also hope for Gute to pick young Melton. Would be good for locker room chemistry.
Bo was a nice story last year, but he's still a bottom of the roster WR. If healthy, Watson, Doubs, Reed and Wicks would seem to be locks. That leaves Bo, Heath, Toure and DuBose competing for what may be one spot even if no other players are added this month. Drafting a guy then cutting his brother doesn't seem like a locker room positive.
So unless they see Bo as a clear favorite to make the roster, I'd prefer to avoid it.
@Herschel posted:Bo was a nice story last year, but he's still a bottom of the roster WR. If healthy, Watson, Doubs, Reed and Wicks would seem to be locks. That leaves Bo, Heath, Toure and DuBose competing for what may be one spot even if no other players are added this month. Drafting a guy then cutting his brother doesn't seem like a locker room positive.
So unless they see Bo as a clear favorite to make the roster, I'd prefer to avoid it.
Respectfully disagree. He's fast, and if he continues to improve gives us great depth at WR.
YA likes him. The poor fucker is doomed
I like him, too, tbh, he was one of the guys I would have been happy had they drafted on Day 3, and I think he is their best speed option behind Watson's hamstrings, but we've seen a lot of fan favorites hit the curb over the years.
They could keep 6 or even 7 WR's
Gutey will keep the best 53
@RochNyFan posted:Don't really care what the RAS score was, I know what I saw on gamedays. He has football speed for a guy his size - had the third most "explosive" runs of 20+ yards in all of college football last year and he's rarely stopped by initial contact.
And --
Not only did Estime improve his forty time on Thursday, he bettered it by over a tenth of a second, coming in with an official time of 4.58 seconds. Some teams had even faster on their watches, which is an excellent sign.
@Boris posted:They could keep 6 or even 7 WR's
Gutey will keep the best 53
Gutey has a great opportunity this week. He already has a playoff quality roster as proven last season ... he now needs to find the missing pieces to fill holes and add depth to key positions. I am excited about fall 2024.
@Herschel posted:Bo was a nice story last year, but he's still a bottom of the roster WR. If healthy, Watson, Doubs, Reed and Wicks would seem to be locks. That leaves Bo, Heath, Toure and DuBose competing for what may be one spot even if no other players are added this month. Drafting a guy then cutting his brother doesn't seem like a locker room positive.
So unless they see Bo as a clear favorite to make the roster, I'd prefer to avoid it.
There's some speculation, out there, that if any GB WR doesn't make the roster, it's going to be Toure. Not sure why that is, other than it's hard for him to get on the field. Same goes for DuBose. That being said, will Gute draft any WR this draft? If he does, when will he get to be on the field?
Toure really faded last year when guys like Melton stepped up.
I 100% think we see a WR chosen
I wonder if Estime is high enough on Gute's board, for him to consider drafting? Isn't Estime a "Dillon type" of back? I think we need a guy like Jaylen Wright. He would complement Dillon and Jackson, nicely, IMO. Only four days away, now!
https://www.prideofdetroit.com...projection-difficult
I think there is a wide range of players that fit in the "tier" between 25-45 or 50.
I'd be so interested to see any teams board and how they have the tiers setup. Gutey does this as well.
Expect a trade down if possible.
From The Athletic.....
So, draft season. What gives? Iâm so tired.
Jacob: Each new report adds hours to the day. Drake Maye's pro day went well in one report but poorly in another. Jayden Daniels is a lock for the Commanders on Friday, but Saturday he becomes a Raiders target via a trade up to No. 3. Would I have it any other way? No. Is the speculation maddening? Yes, Chris. Yes it is.
Dianna: Tired? Chris, you don't know what exhausting truly is until you have two under two! So much has happened since the Super Bowl, yet here we are a few days from the NFL Draft and there are some still questioning if Chicago is REALLY taking Caleb Williams No. 1 overall. The rumors, the chatter, the guessing, the mocking, is all part of the NFL's brilliance in hyping and keeping fans interested. It's my favorite time of year, and my phone is constantly at 2 percent battery.
Give me your best draft smokescreens.
Dianna: The Texans last year were brilliant in fooling the world. MAJOR NFL INSIDERS (at other outlets) were making bets on live television that Houston wasn't going quarterback, that's how well they kept their little secret. What they did do was let the rest of the league believe they were picking Will Anderson. Well, they did pick Anderson, AFTER they selected C.J. Stroud No. 2 overall. Was it to keep Carolina with the No. 1 overall pick on Bryce Young? Yep. Standing ovation for Nick Caserio, the Texans general manager.
Jacob: Mac Jones to the 49ers at No. 3 back in 2021 immediately comes to mind. They traded a haul to draft Jimmy Garoppolo's replacement, and Jones had fit their system and was reported by many as the obvious favorite. Turns out it wasn't truly a smokescreen, as Kyle Shanahan's group was undecided between Jones and Trey Lance. Would they have been better off with Jones? We'll never know, but at least we get the Brock Purdy experience.
And please, just tell me what Minnesota will do.
Jacob: If the Vikings see Drake Maye fall to No. 3, I believe they'll send âa bagâ of three firsts to the Patriots, including No. 11, No. 23 and a 2025 first. If the Commanders snatch Maye, J.J. McCarthy is probably the Vikingsâ next target. Ideally for Minnesota, McCarthy falls to the Falcons at No. 8 and the trade gets much, much cheaper. They'll likely need to outbid the Broncos, who have just one first and no second-round picks this year.
Dianna: The Vikings went to Baton Rouge to meet with Jayden Daniels, their top QB choice, in hopes they can land him. But with Washington appearing to be locked in on selecting the LSU star, Minnesota will need to get New England to trade with them for their next best quarterback. I predict New England stays at No. 3, but if they decide to trade out? Minnesota would need to use their pick 11, 23, and their 2025 first, just as Jacob said. The pressure is on for Minnesota's front office.
Just pray for Diannaâs phone this week, yâall.
Now you know the truth about what happened with the Texans last year. We always find out....it just takes time.
@Boris posted:Should I start a 2025 Draft thread already??
Rumor has it, that the intention for the 2025 draft in Green Bay is to honor the bike tradition and have each of the first round draft picks ride bikes alongside a child from the home state of each team on night one. ðē ð ðĨđ
â Rachel Christine (@RachieRach1992) April 20, 2024
I hope they plow the snow out of the way first.
