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@Boris posted:

Me vs me? Covering receivers has become so easy for Jaire he is now trying to cover himself.

I think we can consider this an update.  Obviously long term health is very important because the Packers are probably going to make #23 the top priority to re-sign and be their #1 CB for years to come. But it sounds like it's basically pain tolerance and how comfortable he can be playing in a brace.





IIRC, King played with one his rookie year and then I believe also into the start of year 2. And at that time, he did fine. His issue up until late last year has always been availability.

Other CB's and players have also done this. Hunter Henry I believe played with one and Gary did as well. 

   

@packerboi posted:

IIRC, King played with one his rookie year and then I believe also into the start of year 2. And at that time, he did fine. His issue up until late last year has always been availability.

Other CB's and players have also done this. Hunter Henry I believe played with one and Gary did as well.

   

Richard Sherman played the Packers one armed also.

It makes sense from the nature of the injury. Even grade 3 separations do not require surgery in the majority of cases. It sounds like it's a shoulder brace, it's physical therapy and rehab to strengthen the AC joint.

Doesn't sound like he plays this week, they don't need him for the Bears the following week either. Maybe the following week he's active.     

@packerboi posted:

It makes sense from the nature of the injury. Even grade 3 separations do not require surgery in the majority of cases. It sounds like it's a shoulder brace, it's physical therapy and rehab to strengthen the AC joint.

Doesn't sound like he plays this week, they don't need him for the Bears the following week either. Maybe the following week he's active.     

Bengals, Bears, and the Washington Football team in that order.

@packerboi posted:

It makes sense from the nature of the injury. Even grade 3 separations do not require surgery in the majority of cases. It sounds like it's a shoulder brace, it's physical therapy and rehab to strengthen the AC joint.

Doesn't sound like he plays this week, they don't need him for the Bears the following week either. Maybe the following week he's active.     

I read, don't recall where, that they were doing "all they could to avoid surgery" which I interpreted as it being a pretty bad one.   I'm guessing more like 4 to 6 weeks.

FWIW, an assessment of Douglas from Rodney:

So what are the Packers getting in the 26-year-old Douglas, who spent the first three seasons of his career in Philadelphia before bouncing from Carolina to Vegas to Houston to Arizona in the past six months? Think of a marginally better version of LaDarius Gunter. And if that doesn’t excite you, well, who were you expecting GM Brian Gutekunst to acquire in October? Four-time Pro Bowler and 2019 Defensive Player of the Year Stephon Gilmore?

Douglas is a huge corner (6-2, 210) with plenty of experience. He started 18 games for the Eagles, and I think I watched all of them. What I remember is a player whose inconsistency was maddening. He would look like a legit No. 2 corner one week and then have fans railing against him on talk radio the next. That’s because Douglas had a propensity for giving up big plays. In the past two seasons, he’s allowed eight TDs and five passes longer than 44 yards. In comparison, Kevin King allowed seven TDs and four passes longer than 44 yards over the same period of time.

Douglas ran 4.59 at the 2017 Combine, and that lack of speed tends to get him in trouble, especially when he can’t re-route fast receivers at the line of scrimmage. Eagles’ defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz too often left Douglas on an island and when the pass rush didn’t get home, the results were as ugly as they were predictable. His counterpart in Carolina, Phil Snow, did a better job of protecting Douglas in 2020, and he wound up having a decent season. Still, the Panthers made no effort to re-sign him. That’s telling. So is Vegas dumping him prior to final cuts.

To his credit, Douglas is usually pretty effective in zone coverage. He has good instincts and does a nice job of seeing routes unfolding. He’s also blessed with above-average ball skills. And he’s always been a tough SOB who’s not afraid to mix it up with bigger players. His willingness to support the run was often lauded by the coaches in Philly.

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With Alexander likely sidelined for a while and King about as dependable as a 20-year-old alarm clock, Gutekunst had to add an experienced corner who could get on the field as soon as possible. Douglas fits the bill. And if used correctly, he could give the Packers serviceable play at the most important position on defense. That’s about the best you can hope for when it comes to signing somebody off another team’s practice squad a few weeks before Halloween.

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@BrainDed posted:

I read, don't recall where, that they were doing "all they could to avoid surgery" which I interpreted as it being a pretty bad one.   I'm guessing more like 4 to 6 weeks.

It would be nice to have him back for the Cards. If they IR him now that's the earliest he would return.

LaFleur said that they will allow CB Jaire Alexander to heal and then see where he is, but he's hopeful that he will be back in a matter of weeks. He said surgery is not an option for right now and he won't play this week

It's obvious the current front office is planning for life after #12 by building a top defense, and rolling the dice that all they need is a QB at the level of Jimmy G to win balls games...don't turn it over, just work the offensive system.

Hold the opponents under 14 and you will win a lot.

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@Chongo posted:

It's obvious the current front office is planning for life after #12 by building a top defense, and rolling the dice that all they need is a QB at the level of Jimmy G to win balls games...don't turn it over, just work the offensive system.

Hold the opponents under 14 and you will win a lot.

I totally agree with you.  Gute learned from TT but where he differs IMHO is that he seems to be hell bent on having a great defense that will be the strength of this team once #12 calls it a day.

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