We don't know what his back injury is. I had back surgery in 2019. If his back feels like mine did, he couldn't cover Betty White in her current state of health!
It doesn't really matter if it's Jaire, Preston Smith, or Rasul Douglas in coverage. Joe Barry will just line them up 12 yards deep on 3rd and 7 and have them drift backwards.
I think he could have prime Deion Sanders, Darrell Green, Charles Woodson, and LeRoy Butler back there and he'd still play the same defense.
@MichiganPacker posted:It doesn't really matter if it's Jaire, Preston Smith, or Rasul Douglas in coverage. Joe Barry will just line them up 12 yards deep on 3rd and 7 and have them drift backwards.
Yes! This is perfect defense.....don't want to give up the big play!! Just tackle em after they cross the sticks 👏🏼
Yeah. Why diminish your product with an incompetent partner.
I side with Jaire. If I’m a proven player on this D, I’m demanding a trade.
Some Coaches are fuckin idiots. Trying to force players into playing how the coaches want instead of adjusting to the players strengths.....aka putting a square peg in a round hole.
That will never work in today's NFL. This ain't the 60's/70's anymore.
So frustrating to see another drama play out with a guy who was a significant part of why the Pack went to 2 NFC Championship games in 2019-2020.
Let’s hope the relationship between Jaire and the Pack can be restored but it certainly doesn’t look like that is in the cards. He was one of the few impact players this team had left from that 2019-2021 era of really good Packers’ teams.
I think the trading of Rasul hit Jaire really hard....and that sucks. 'Sul was clearly one of the leaders on this team.
Interesting that prior to the Gutey/WMM regime the only real organizational drama was the whole Bert dust-up.
Now it seems like every year there is at least one or two. The Packers had it pretty fuckin' good for a really long time. Shit was bound to come back around with the weak-ass leadership we have top to bottom.
“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”
@Boris posted:I think the trading of Rasul hit Jaire really hard....and that sucks. 'Sul was clearly one of the leaders on this team.
And Jaire is clearly not capable of being a leader on this team…..and he’s getting paid millions to play football. I’ll give him the benefit of doubt that his injury is keeping him from playing, but if he’s sitting out on purpose because he’s unhappy with his coaches, then f*#k him! Sit on the bench and waste your career for all I care.
Apparently Jaire has a grade 2 AC joint sprain. Usually 2-4 weeks recovery which is likely why they didn't IR him initially.
JA in press man can protect the shoulder, when tackling, better than when he's attacking the ball carrier from 10 yards off.
So, is he holding himself out because of this?
@lovepack posted:He won't play for JB. Good for him.
BS. This is a money grab, plain and simple.
@lovepack posted:He's grabbed the money. He doesn't want to look like a fool following JB's schemes.
Would not be surprised if that's the case, and as a high paid vet who is very well recognized in the league he has the cache to do so.
If GB had an owner, they'd side with their high priced asset over any GM or Coach.
Just business.
Fans may not like it, but it's the reality.
@lovepack posted:He's grabbed the money. He doesn't want to look like a fool following JB's schemes.
He grabbed a whole lot less money than he should have. Despite signing the largest contract for a corner “only” 30 million is of it is guaranteed. The Packers got a great deal..
i dunno, do we really think there's something nefarious going on? they guy is injured...if he wanted to get traded or whatever, he should just say so. we can accomodate that in our current state.
@H5 posted:
Apparently Jaire has a grade 2 AC joint sprain. Usually 2-4 weeks recovery which is likely why they didn't IR him initially.
JA in press man can protect the shoulder, when tackling, better than when he's attacking the ball carrier from 10 yards off.
So, is he holding himself out because of this?
But then why remove all the Packer posts off IG?
Some guys do shit like that regularly. You just don't hear about it unless the same player is supposedly disgruntled. If Jayden Reed does this next year you won't hear about it.
There could be fire with this smoke or it could just be smoke.
@Boris posted:I think the trading of Rasul hit Jaire really hard....and that sucks. 'Sul was clearly one of the leaders on this team.
One would think it was his chance to become the defacto leader of the defense. There were reports when Sul got traded that Jaire was looking forward to being the sole leader. And the game after Sul was gone Jaire did do a lot to lead the secondary, more than he usually did.
What happened since then I have no idea. Possible that when he got hurt and Valentine/Ballentine did well and we won those difficult game he got a little butthurt? Who knows.
Possible he's literally just injured and that's all there is to it. If it's anything more than that, time to ship him off in the offseason. No player should be above the team.
@pkr_north posted:i dunno, do we really think there's something nefarious going on? they guy is injured...if he wanted to get traded or whatever, he should just say so. we can accomodate that in our current state.
Not till the offseason though. We're past the trade deadline, so if he wanted to be traded, all he can really do is sit and sulk until the season is over.
If he is hurt he should be sitting, if not he should be playing. For those OK with an anti coach protest what if the whole D refused to play ?
Inmates/asylum, can’t have that.
@Pikes Peak posted:If he is hurt he should be sitting, if not he should be playing. For those OK with an anti coach protest what if the whole D refused to play ?
Inmates/asylum, can’t have that.
It's not as if they're playing D right now.
LaFleur said they miscalculated the injury severity/recovery, whatever. MiLF didn't seem to indicate there was anything more than that - i.e. didn't seem testy or irritated but the inquiry.
@Chongo posted:Interesting that prior to the Gutey/WMM regime the only real organizational drama was the whole Bert dust-up.
Now it seems like every year there is at least one or two. The Packers had it pretty fuckin' good for a really long time. Shit was bound to come back around with the weak-ass leadership we have top to bottom.
“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.”
Nothing Jimmy Leonhard can't fix
a bunch of speculation. bottom line is the defense sucks and joe barry has been in charge for three seasons. time to move on
@PackerHawk posted:Some guys do shit like that regularly. You just don't hear about it unless the same player is supposedly disgruntled. If Jayden Reed does this next year you won't hear about it.
There could be fire with this smoke or it could just be smoke.
Are we talking about Goldie?
@Pikes Peak posted:If he is hurt he should be sitting, if not he should be playing. For those OK with an anti coach protest what if the whole D refused to play ?
Inmates/asylum, can’t have that.
I thought of that. But when your concerns as a player are falling on deaf ears.....that's also a problem that needs to be addressed by the head guy...MLF.
Him not firing Berry 🍓🫐 after the opposing QB puts up a perfect game for the first time ever in Lambeau should tell us all which way he's hitching his wagon.
It's a privilege to coach the Green Bay Packers. Berry should no longer have that privilege.
Especially when the opposing quarterback is an average quarterback at best
LaFleur is an OC at most, clearly in over his head as a HC. He’s like Ray Rhodes, but more animated and less gum chewing. Barry is maybe a position coach, but probably more an equipment manager. The coaching staff of the Green Bay Peter Principles.
I wouldn’t allow Barry to clean toilets at 1265 at this point
The other thing to remember is there’s no live tackling required in practice, so the shoulder could be fine without that contact. In games, contact is kind of a given. OCs are going to go at him with runners and underneath passes.