Aaron Rodgers traded to the NY Jets

@Satori posted:

The reason you can't get past it is because you don't fully understand it yet.
Let me see if I can shine some illumination on the deal. It was specifically designed to be a placeholder and to insure the Packers couldn't trade him without his consent. That was the main goal of that deal and both Rodgers and the Packers front office were fully aware there was zero chance he'd play on that contract in GB or elsewhere in 2023, 2024 and beyond. No chance

Rodgers has talked openly about the need to re-do the deal. Gute has talked openly about the need to re-do the deal. Andrew Brandt wrote an article and talked about how the deal would be re-done no matter what. Everybody who matters understands why the Packers agreed to that contract.

The media numbnuts either don't know or most likely don't care. Wilfull ignorance works in their favor and they can keep pouring even more gas on the "Rodgers is holding the Packers hostage" fire. Its incredibly stupid

Don't let them lead you into stupidity. Stop thinking the FO effed up.
They didn't.

100 % guarantee that Rodgers will re-do his deal ( especially the option bonus) if  he returns to the NFL this year. He'll either help GB or help GB and their trade partners.

The deal was still poorly done by the FO considering the cap implications.

now is the time to take the $40 million cap hit.  you've got love on a rookie contract.  just trade rodgers and be done with it.  hopefully, love pans out.  if not, you figure out something else.  this team is not going anywhere with rodgers.

Aaron continues his talks with the Jets today..

Per @DanGrazianoESPN, talks between Aaron Rodgers and the Jets will continue into today.

Story here: https://t.co/kcvsDoWLGr

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 7, 2023

@DH13 posted:

Because we're all biding time right now, I thought about that and BB certainly holds AR in high esteem.

But if anyone thinks AR not retiring this year has anything to do with the fact TB retired this year, then they also have to see there is no way AR would want to come into NE in TB's shadow.  What # would he wear?  What # would they let him wear?  He doesn't win a SB and the narrative automatically becomes (legit or not) that TB could win SB's with BB but AR could not.

I think AR wants to steer clear of any scenario that puts him in a side by side comparison with TB at this point in his career.

But that depends on how big that chip on his shoulder is going to be if he gets shipped.

I think you think too much about what strangers think

Wondering if it is "permission" or "encouragement"... https://t.co/K6ryCCvaCJ

— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) March 7, 2023

My guess would be the latter.

@michiganjoe posted:

Wondering if it is "permission" or "encouragement"... https://t.co/K6ryCCvaCJ

— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) March 7, 2023

My guess would be the latter.

Others have said that normally if a team gives permission for a player to talk to another team then a deal between the teams has basically already been reached.

IE, the Packers already have an offer from the Jets that they are fine with, now it's up to Rodgers to decide if he wants to go there or not.

Jets who could be included in the trade package…

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/...or-aaron-rodgers-203

Nah, the cap hits from any decent Jets player pickups would be on top of the cap hit the Packers are stuck with after a trade.

id guess Loves 20+ mil 5th yr option would get reworked to a more cap friendly deal so it might be possible

Packers are going to be in cap hell of some sort no matter what. My guess is the Packers eat more of the salary this year and get better draft picks and/or prospects from the Jets. No way the Jets are dealing a critical piece for them...Corey Davis makes sense because he's older, and not as explosive as their younger guys. Also MLF worked with him in Tennessee. They are not dealing us Elijah Moore. Denzel Mims is just a guy...we'd be doing them a favor taking him.

The Packers don't want/need Zach Wilson...he will want to go be a starter somewhere. They are going All-In on 10...and if he isn't the guy, they will be in position to draft another QB soon enough.

Bert played for four teams.   Took weiner pics...And stole money from Mississippi folks that need it the most   Drunk, drug addicted, whore.

A-Aron possibly his 2nd.  He was a good soldier and waited his turn here.  He hurt some peoples butt with his views and Calduhfornia way of doing things. 

Aaron way better Packer and Person then Bertya.  And it aint even close. 

Trade him to the highest bidder and reset this bitch

@mr21mr21 posted:

I think you think too much about what strangers think

Idle minds are the tools of...X4.

Update: Sources tell @DanGrazianoESPN and me that a contingent of Jets team officials are scheduled to fly out today to meet in person with Aaron Rodgers. https://t.co/zFEoKY9rvl

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 7, 2023

@Chongo posted:

As Brandt stated, any compensation will be directly proportional to how much salary they are willing to eat.

There are a lot of talking heads out there, with a lot of opinions that are mostly wrong. But Brandt is a different animal...he's been in the Packers backroom. When he talks, there is weight to his words.

Nah Brandt is just another bobblehead at this point. He was saying Rodgers was gone last year. I can't recall the year before but I think he's been on the Rodgers is leaving train for a while. Sooner or later he'll be right. I'm thinking the preponderance of evidence is on his side this year.

But he doesn't know.

@NumberThree posted:

If he’s open to going to the Jets then he’s open to finishing third (probably last) in the AFC East and missing the playoffs by losing to the Eagles, Chiefs, Chargers, and Cowboys.

I‘m sure he’ll love spreading the ball to all of the Jets talented receiver, and will be on the same page with their offense Week 1.

I see what you did there. 

Unless it’s Sauce Gardner or Garrett Wilson I don’t wear any Jets players coming back.   The Packers need the picks.  

@packerboi posted:

Aaron continues his talks with the Jets today..

Per @DanGrazianoESPN, talks between Aaron Rodgers and the Jets will continue into today.

Story here: https://t.co/kcvsDoWLGr

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 7, 2023

In most cases if a player under contract spends this much time talking to another team the two teams have a deal. With Rodgers though, who knows?

@pkr_north posted:

mel·an·chol·y

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noun

1. a feeling of pensive sadness, typically with no obvious cause.

   "an air of melancholy surrounded him"

The New York Jets have flown on Woody Johnson’s private plane to California to meet with Aaron Rodgers in person per sources. They land soon. (also reported by @RobDemovsky @DanGrazianoESPN)
The Green Bay Packers have given New York permission to speak with Rodgers.

— Dianna Russini (@diannaESPN) March 7, 2023

A few more details.

DFH for NYC media. The Joe Rogan haters will love to get up in 12's face ASAP about non-football things.

@Goalline posted:

In most cases if a player under contract spends this much time talking to another team the two teams have a deal. With Rodgers though, who knows?

It's not that complicated. If he feels he can win a title there and it's a good environment he will go. If not he won't.

@4 Favre posted:

Nah Brandt is just another bobblehead at this point. He was saying Rodgers was gone last year. I can't recall the year before but I think he's been on the Rodgers is leaving train for a while. Sooner or later he'll be right. I'm thinking the preponderance of evidence is on his side this year.

But he doesn't know.

He didn't say Rodgers would go, he said the compensation in terms if draft picks will be higher the more salary the Packers are willing to eat.

@Chongo posted:

It's not that complicated. If he feels he can win a title there and it's a good environment he will go. If not he won't.

No doubt, but that’s not my question. The question is, do the two teams have a deal in place already or are the Packers actively trying to sell?

@Chongo posted:

He didn't say Rodgers would go, he said the compensation in terms if draft picks will be higher the more salary the Packers are willing to eat.

He has said the previous 2 years that the Packers were going to trade Rodgers.

Rodger's and Bach to jets for two 1s and 2 2s.

@WolfPack posted:

id guess Loves 20+ mil 5th yr option would get reworked to a more cap friendly deal so it might be possible

The 5th year option is fully guaranteed.  It can't be modified.  The only way to get more cap friendly is to not pick up Love's 5th year option and instead sign him to a long term deal this offseason.

My guess is the Packers would rather give Love 2 years to see if he's "the guy" and move on if he isn't, rather than give him a long term deal before he's really ever played.

Remember his cap his this year is $4m.  Even with the 5th year option, it's basically a 2-year $24m contract.  Peanuts.

Moving bachtiarri to jets could be huge incentive for rodgers to accept deal

Bahk won’t want to play on artificial turf

@Goalline posted:

No doubt, but that’s not my question. The question is, do the two teams have a deal in place already or are the Packers actively trying to sell?

I have seen several NFL peeps say that if the Packers are even letting AR talk to the Jets it means there is already a deal in place.  Now it's just up to whether AR wants to go to the Jets.  The fact that they are flying to CA to meet him says he is certainly interested.  He wouldn't be wasting their time if he wasn't.

That said I wonder if he asks the Jets to bring in Cobb/Tonyan/Lazard/Big Dog, etc as part of the deal.

@vitaflo posted:

I have seen several NFL peeps say that if the Packers are even letting AR talk to the Jets it means there is already a deal in place.  Now it's just up to whether AR wants to go to the Jets.  The fact that they are flying to CA to meet him says he is certainly interested.  He wouldn't be wasting their time if he wasn't.

That’s a really good way to put it.

@Chongo posted:

Update: Sources tell @DanGrazianoESPN and me that a contingent of Jets team officials are scheduled to fly out today to meet in person with Aaron Rodgers. https://t.co/zFEoKY9rvl

— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 7, 2023

@DanGrazianoESPN: I’m told the Jets contingent on the way to California includes team owner Woody Johnson, GM Joe Douglas, head coach Robert Saleh, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, possibly others.

ffs it’s just like those pilgrimages to Hattiesburg

@Floridarob posted:

Moving bachtiarri to jets could be huge incentive for rodgers to accept deal

Interesting part about something like this, while we eat an extra $9m in cap by trading Rodgers, we'd save $6m in cap by also trading Bakh.  So we'd only take a $3m cap hit and get a lot more in draft capital in return.

The downside of course is if we trade Bakh after June 1 instead, we save $17m in cap space.

That said, a lock down LT is not something that grows on trees and keeping Bakh regardless of his cost with a new QB is probably the right move.  We have enough cap space to keep him on his current deal without modification.

@Chongo posted:

It's not that complicated. If he feels he can win a title there and it's a good environment he will go. If not he won't.

I think he knows he's done in GB and he's taking the best situation he can find considering all things. No garbage team will make a play for him so any team talking to him thinks he'll take them all the way. Raiders, Dolphins, Jets? Those are the best possibilities if they want him. I don't think Rodgers is in a position to pick and chose as much as some people think. If the Dolphins offer a couple 2nd round draft picks and the Jets offer a couple #1s it won't be Rodgers deciding where he goes.

@vitaflo posted:

The 5th year option is fully guaranteed.  It can't be modified.  The only way to get more cap friendly is to not pick up Love's 5th year option and instead sign him to a long term deal this offseason.

My guess is the Packers would rather give Love 2 years to see if he's "the guy" and move on if he isn't, rather than give him a long term deal before he's really ever played.

Remember his cap his this year is $4m.  Even with the 5th year option, it's basically a 2-year $24m contract.  Peanuts.

This is why moving Rodgers now is so important. The Packer can actually offer Love a cap friendly multi year contract before the 5th year option has to be picked up. Love doesn't have the same leverage as he does with a $20 mil salary guaranteed in his back pocket. The 5th year option plays big into this entire scenario with Rodgers being traded. We heard all the other reasons but the 5th year option is a huge part of why the Packers want to move him.

@ilcuqui posted:

@DanGrazianoESPN: I’m told the Jets contingent on the way to California includes team owner Woody Johnson, GM Joe Douglas, head coach Robert Saleh, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, possibly others.

ffs it’s just like those pilgrimages to Hattiesburg

This is also right up Rodgers alley and what he needs. To feel the warm fuzzies and to feel wanted. I honestly believe that is a very big deal to Rodgers. And every bit as important, it's what the Packers are no longer doing.

I imagine some pretty damn expensive Scotch will be drank tonight on the Jet's tab along with whatever other gifts the Jets are going to lay at his feet.

@Floridarob posted:

Moving bachtiarri to jets could be huge incentive for rodgers to accept deal

It would be great for the Packers for a lot of reasons. Most importantly is the question of how much Bahk can even play or be effective. The salary cap savings would be gravy.

I'm okay with them trading both to the Jets. It's not like we will go to the SB this year, so sweeten the "take Rodgers off our hands" pot, trade both, help the cap, and look toward next year. It's also fair to wonder how many great years Bak has left if they are doing a ton of managing his knee now in order to keep him in the lineup. Better a year too soon than a year too late.

So, incoming offer from Miami in 3, 2, 1……

Bahk started all 11 games once he was fully back and was an all-pro level LT in pass blocking over that stretch.  If he's back he's still elite.  Like others have said, you probably want the best OL you can build in front of a brand new QB.