@packerboi posted:This is also right up Rodgers alley and what he needs. To feel the warm fuzzies and to feel wanted. I honestly believe that is a very big deal to Rodgers. And every bit as important, it's what the Packers are no longer doing.
I imagine some pretty damn expensive Scotch will be drank tonight on the Jet's tab along with whatever other gifts the Jets are going to lay at his feet.
Yup, Gute is going out of his way to treat Aaron like a normal player. Rodgers really hates that.
His boy Hackett is there. Promise him Big Dog, RC, Lazard and Tonyan and Bahk if need be
Can't unsail this ship now.
Rubicon has been crossed
@Goalline posted:Yup, Gute is going out of his way to treat Aaron like a normal player. Rodgers really hates that.
This is an interesting point, as Gute has said and done lots of things recently that aren't offensive or controversial, unless you're Rodgers. Letting Cobb/Tonyan/Lewis, etc's contracts void, saying it has to be "the right fit" with a Rodgers return, saying AR would need to redo his contract if he was to return, saying he hasn't talked to AR much but is in constant contact with Love this offseason, etc. All little things that nobody except Rodgers would take offense to.
The #Jets plane is currently over Arizona. https://t.co/KF3Cm0GTfE pic.twitter.com/sqKrI7aodK
— Oliver Cochrane (@OliverJCochrane) March 7, 2023
I'll go on record and say I WONT trust this till there is a news conference/announcement. It will feed AR's ego, but until then, Im not getting too excited.
But, I really hope this happened, and that Love emerges as a decent QB.
GO BAKERSFIELD!!
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@Chongo posted:Update: Sources tell @DanGrazianoESPN and me that a contingent of Jets team officials are scheduled to fly out today to meet in person with Aaron Rodgers. https://t.co/zFEoKY9rvl
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 7, 2023
@vitaflo posted:I have seen several NFL peeps say that if the Packers are even letting AR talk to the Jets it means there is already a deal in place. Now it's just up to whether AR wants to go to the Jets. The fact that they are flying to CA to meet him says he is certainly interested. He wouldn't be wasting their time if he wasn't.
That said I wonder if he asks the Jets to bring in Cobb/Tonyan/Lazard/Big Dog, etc as part of the deal.
Maybe he even ups the ante and asks for Kumerow, too.
So the Owner, GM, Head Coach, OC and who knows who else is on the plane. That to me says it's a done deal. Too many head honchos there. Feels more like it's a celebration meeting as opposed to a sales meeting.
@PackerRick posted:It would be great for the Packers for a lot of reasons. Most importantly is the question of how much Bahk can even play or be effective. The salary cap savings would be gravy.
Plus Bacteria can see himself up on the Jumbotron at MSG during Knick games slugging $80 beers!
@H5 posted:
Do the Jets owners even know how they can structure a deal for Rodgers? The have no meaningful draft capital (13 to our 15) and are already over the cap as it is.
The Packers won't offload him unless they absorb a lot of the cap pain. The Jets will effectively bankrupt themselves for 2-3 years. They are not 1 season away (or 2 or 3 for that matter) from a Super Bowl... especially by offloading picks and cash for Rodgers.
And let's not even get into the Jets extraordinarily deep, talents, and injury free depth chart at O-line and WR.
@Chongo posted:He didn't say Rodgers would go, he said the compensation in terms if draft picks will be higher the more salary the Packers are willing to eat.
Fair, but anyone who has followed any sport for any amount of time could suss that part out.
The two scenarios are that the Packers would prefer to keep Rodgers as their starter another year, or they prefer to move on. Assuming they prefer to move on... Rodgers doesn't have much incentive to restructure a deal to bring more draft picks back from the Jets. He can just Carr it, why cost his new team draft capital they can spend in ways to help him and his new team? "Hold the Packers hostage" as some call it.
I'm just thinking out loud here. I don't see much incentive for the Packers to mitigate "cap hell" if they're moving on from Rodgers. "Cap hell" just sounds like "draft pick Christmas".... get picks for Rodgers, eat as much of his dead cap as you can... set Love up to fail and hope he finds some level of success that indicates he's worth re-signing, and be in a position that the draft picks are starting to develop into real players and you have money for impact free-agents to fill in the gaps.
The tear-it-down and rebuild strategy always sounds good to me, it's weird how badly some franchises that need not be named tend to screw it up though.
I can eat a 4-12 followed by a 6-10 season no problem right now. Or I could roll with another Rodgers "maybe we can make the wildcard or even the division (because the Vikings went straight back to total suck instead of classic 2000s pull-games-out-of-your ass Bears-mode that they found in 2022)" type season or two followed by the 4-12 and 6-10. Timeline doesn't matter to me. Whether we make a go of it with Jordan Love or the next first round QB doesn't matter to me.
Now we're tracking private flights again? This really is the re-incarnation of 2008
@Iowacheese posted:Promise him Big Dog, RC, Lazard and Tonyan and Bahk if need be
You aren't very good at this are you ? We should play poker some time soon
The Packers will be keeping their elite LT, the Jets can have Marshall Newhouse or Breno Guacamole
Deal contingent on Jets getting one of: Bakhtiari, Jenkins or Zach Tom, with extra compensation on a declining scale with each guy. Is there a realistic scenario where that guy isn’t Tom?.
I'm a sentimentalist, so seeing this shit go down personally sucks ass for me. Wish Rodgers would retire a Packer so I don't have to see him in another jersey, but that's not reality. Man I hope Love pans out and that he's got the support of the squad.
@NumberThree posted:Do the Jets owners even know how they can structure a deal for Rodgers? The have no meaningful draft capital (13 to our 15) and are already over the cap as it is.
The Packers won't offload him unless they absorb a lot of the cap pain. The Jets will effectively bankrupt themselves for 2-3 years. They are not 1 season away (or 2 or 3 for that matter) from a Super Bowl... especially by offloading picks and cash for Rodgers.
And let's not even get into the Jets extraordinarily deep, talents, and injury free depth chart at O-line and WR.
But you're forgetting something - the Jets are idiots. It's what makes them such an ideal trade partner. Git 'er done Woody!!!!
@ilcuqui posted:@DanGrazianoESPN: I’m told the Jets contingent on the way to California includes team owner Woody Johnson, GM Joe Douglas, head coach Robert Saleh, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, possibly others.
ffs it’s just like those pilgrimages to Hattiesburg
They shouldn’t all be on the same plane
@RochNyFan posted:Throw in Tony Moll, Jason Spriggs and Jason Spitz as well. Hell, add Royce Newman to the mix.
Get Macys to make an AR balloon for the Turkey Day parade, game over.
@Pikes Peak posted:Get Macys to make an AR balloon for the Turkey Day parade, game over.
Just fill it with Ayuhuasca instead of helium and let him sample a bit to enhance the experience.
Peter King essentially said if this thing is going to get done, Rodgers will have to commit to Jets for the next two years...one and done won't work for them. A pretty reasonable ask IMO. JMO.
@RochNyFan posted:I wouldn't give up any of those guys. Need best o-line possible to help Love.
So you'd rather no deal?
@Tavis Smiley posted:I'm a sentimentalist, so seeing this shit go down personally sucks ass for me. Wish Rodgers would retire a Packer so I don't have to see him in another jersey, but that's not reality. Man I hope Love pans out and that he's got the support of the squad.
Montana, Brady, Favre, Payton Manning, Rodgers, and Unitas all played somewhere else beyond their long-time teams. All are clearly within the top 20 QBs of all-time. Phillip Rivers and Warren Moon weren't at that level, but are close and both played out the string with other teams. Russell Wilson is a HOF - look what happened with him.
Brees, Kurt Warner, and Steve Young are all HOFers and all played with multiple teams. Matt Ryan is a former MVP and he got sent packing at the end. Namath probably shouldn't be in the HOF, but he is and ended his career with the Rams.
The exceptions to this as HOF QBs go are Elway, Marino, Bob Griese, Troy Aikman, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, and Roger Staubach. That's about it in the modern era. And none of them played after 2000.
The one exception that played after 2000 is Eli Manning. If he's a HOFer, he's the only guy that's played in the last 20 years that is a HOF QB that played for one team.
From a friend.
My Brother-in-law in the Milwaukee area said that he heard on the local radio station (I'm not sure which one) that Rodgers will be traded to the Jets in the next 24 hours. I guess we will find out if that is accurate (or not)!
Aye @AaronRodgers12 I promise if you become a Jet, I won’t pick you off in practice & I’ll burn the cheesehead😶 https://t.co/YTVj4H7ZRQ
— D’ROY GARDNER (@iamSauceGardner) March 7, 2023
At this point, the Jets sent their entire "brain trust" out to meet with Rodgers only ups the ante for Saleh and the GM. For them to go out there and basically publicly announce they are, they must already have the trade done. They know what they are giving up.
If that plane comes back without a deal from Rodgers, the Jets leadership looks even more foolish than they already do. It's hard to pivot back from this to go after your next guy.
@R MaN posted:From a friend.
My Brother-in-law in the Milwaukee area said that he heard on the local radio station (I'm not sure which one) that Rodgers will be traded to the Jets in the next 24 hours. I guess we will find out if that is accurate (or not)!
Are there cap implications doing it before start of league year?
@Chongo posted:Peter King essentially said if this thing is going to get done, Rodgers will have to commit to Jets for the next two years...one and done won't work for them. A pretty reasonable ask IMO. JMO.
He's not married. No kids. I don't even think he has a girlfriend at the moment. Very little to pull Aaron towards retirement. And if he stays healthy, no reason to believe he can't put up decent numbers for 2 years.
I’m not sentimental.
Like I’ve always said with my wives, “Next!”
Jen sterger is single I reckon
Nope she’s off the market
If 12 has a cell phone technology has really approved in the past decade. Lots of possibilities.
@Tschmack posted:If the reports are true, and Rodgers does end up with the Jets, why can’t they win or really compete for the AFC East title?
IMO the Bills are closer to being a fringe playoff team than winning the Super Bowl. Allen regressed this past year, they have no running game, and that defense is extremely overrated.
Miami is decent but can Tua stay healthy? I don’t know.
As for the Patriots, I don’t think they scare anyone.
Now, can a Rodgers QBd Jets team beat the Bengals or Chiefs in the playoffs? Probably not. But they can absolutely be in the mix to win that division and get a 3 or 4 seed. They were in the mix 2/3 of last season with zero QB play.
The Jets are a much better landing spot for Aaron than the Raiders, although, I’d much rather prefer the Raiders #1 than the Jets #1 but beggars can’t be choosers.
A 1 this year, a 2 or 3 next year (maybe conditional) would seem about right.
I've said this before, the Jets OL is a mess and they have little offensive talent.
@MichiganPacker posted:At this point, the Jets sent their entire "brain trust" out to meet with Rodgers only ups the ante for Saleh and the GM. For them to go out there and basically publicly announce they are, they must already have the trade done. They know what they are giving up.
If that plane comes back without a deal from Rodgers, the Jets leadership looks even more foolish than they already do. It's hard to pivot back from this to go after your next guy.
And that doesn't sound like something the Jets would do? Just saying.
@vitaflo posted:So the Owner, GM, Head Coach, OC and who knows who else is on the plane. That to me says it's a done deal. Too many head honchos there. Feels more like it's a celebration meeting as opposed to a sales meeting.
Respectfully disagree. I think it's an ALL OUT sales pitch to to give AR12 all the love and attention he thinks he's entitled to. He wants to be courted and deeply wanted to entice him away from Green Bay. Could be rong though.
This stuff has been in the works for months. Guaranteed Gutey and NYJ have worked out compensation already...at least the rough outline of it. There is just the matter of finding out how badly Rodgers wants to play with the Jets. If he decides he wants to, this thing will happen quickly. Gut feeling of course.
@Chongo posted:Update: Sources tell @DanGrazianoESPN and me that a contingent of Jets team officials are scheduled to fly out today to meet in person with Aaron Rodgers. https://t.co/zFEoKY9rvl
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) March 7, 2023
Yep, after Carr broke their hearts and signed with the Saints. The Jets really worked hard selling Carr on the Jets.
Rebound time. But does AR want them?
