TOG scintillating news- Retired. No wait. As of 5/08 [ 2:40pm LAF] maybe not.

I know Favre is staying retired because I read it in The Enquirer err on the interwebs.
Besides 48 hrs isn't even enough time for Brett to mow his acres and acres of lawn or take a 3 day seminar on becoming a foreclosure real estate baron.

Favre's interview with SI.com’s Peter King; “Part of me coming back last year, I have to admit now, was sticking it to Ted.”

Stick it to 'em Brett!

Florio really comes off sounding like a giant baby the last few days. He had a snide comment earlier about "nobody has ever heard of Rick Schwartz...sorry Rick but it's true". And then this. I hope yahoo is proven right to stick it not only to Florio but ESPN and their NFL coverage (National Favre League).

This guy summed it up well.

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I tell you what though, it’d be some pretty strong stuff if Yahoo is right. Say what you want about (b)spn but they are stillt he giant elephant in the room. If you come out head on against them and say hey you’re full of [bleep], our story is correct, and prove it, that would be bad ass. Schaap and the entire network would lose a lot of credibility. And maybe Florio, you might want to rely on Schwartz’s reporting (even if you never heard of him) moving forward as opposed to the douchers at espn..

And Joe 6-pack. Schwartz’s boss is having his back. I like it. It is not the reporters job to get into a pissing match. All he needs to do is stick to his report and let it all play out. Once Football season starts and Favre is making Wrangler commercials as opposed to playing I am sure Schwartz will be doing his fair share of middle finger salutes. To everybody.

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Originally posted by GreenBayLA:
Besides 48 hrs isn't even enough time for Brett to mow his acres and acres of lawn or take a 3 day seminar on becoming a foreclosure real estate baron.

Ahhh, but the other day when Rachel Nichols was reporting from Mississippi she noted that someone was cutting Brett's lawn and it was not Brett! CKA perhaps?

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Originally posted by DurangoDoug:


After Florio gets all didactic on how to do anonymous reporting, this is part of the post:

Taking your $10 Scrabble word out of retirement?

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Originally posted by Max:
rotoworld and kffl have the same information, and more of it, and more of it is accurate.

KFFL is a step behind the AP wire and they're just feeding on the same crap rumors that were made up somewhere else.

I admit I mostly go to Rotoworld. I used to like kffl. Just seems like both of those pull things primarily from beat reporters for the local papers, guys who are actually talking with coaches/players/etc.

In any case, I don't agree that most diehard football fans read PFT regularly. Or need to to get actual information of any kind.

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Originally posted by JJSD:
That's OK. If this signing doesn't happen, Cpt. Braveheart can go back to pissing his pants at the thought of facing the immortal Sage Rosenfels... [/IMG]

Thanks for reminding me. If the end of the weekend blues wasn't bad enough, the Favre saga isn't resolved yet and I will now have scary dreams about Sage lighting up the Pack's defense.

Hope I can still schedule yoga for tomorrow...

Pfft. You just want another excuse to wear your outfits.

Finally I've reached a point where I don't care what Brett does. If he comes back to play for the Vikes ... fine. If he stays retired ... fine. I simply don't care any longer. He's not a Packer any longer, and I've kind of moved on just like the Packers have. I'm suprised most of the people on this board haven't done the same.

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Originally posted by grbaypack:
Finally I've reached a point where I don't care what Brett does. If he comes back to play for the Vikes ... fine. If he stays retired ... fine. I simply don't care any longer. He's not a Packer any longer, and I've kind of moved on just like the Packers have. I'm suprised most of the people on this board haven't done the same.

I don't care either, I already know Favre is a dink. I do care when people show up and try to defend the toad, that's what I'm in it for.

Talking about Brett Favre is pretty much like talking about the weather. Everyone does it, and yet no one really wants to.

The man that was the face of the franchise for years and year is let go. He is implementing a scorched earth policy toward his ex-team, including a 2 year flirtation with a hated rival. Yeah, why would anyone care about that?

Because it paints their hero in a bad light?

if he signs with the Vikings, do the Jets have to give us a 7th round pick?

I think that only applied if the Jets traded him. Not sure though...

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Schefter reports if Favre were to retire after the first year and the Packers got the Jets' first-round pick, then the Packers would send the Jets a fifth-round pick in 2010. If the Packers get the Jets' second-round pick, the Jets would get back the Packers' sixth-round pick in 2010. If the Packers get the Jets' third-round pick, the Jets would get back the Packers' seventh-round pick in 2010. Additionally, in the scenario in which the Packers would get the Jets' first-round pick, Favre must play in at least 50 percent of one playoff game for Green Bay to get that compensation.


nothing in there about un-unretiring compensation, so I guess I'll have to leave this one to the lawyers.

Lets get the opinion of the Packers' "locker room lawyer" ... Jamon Meredith.

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Originally posted by Hipp:
The man that was the face of the franchise for years and year is let go. He is implementing a scorched earth policy toward his ex-team, including a 2 year flirtation with a hated rival. Yeah, why would anyone care about that?

I'm just taking my cue from the Packers organization .... they don't seem too occupied or worried about the whole situation. I applaud them for not getting involved. They've wisely moved on.

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Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
if he signs with the Vikings, do the Jets have to give us a 7th round pick?

I thought about this when this recent talk began. The question is whether or not the Packers would have to give the Jets their 2010 seventh-round pick or not; the Jets definitely don't owe the Packers any additional picks.

My guess is if Favre remains retired, the Packers have to give the Jets their 2010 seventh-rounder (as per the original deal). If he comes out of retirement, I would assume the Packers wouldn't want to give up that pick (and certainly have a strong case to feel that way).

So really, from a draft-pick standpoint the Packers might be better off if he comes out of retirement. If he stays retired, I'm fairly certain they'll be sending their 2010 seventh-rounder to the Jets.

Has any other member of the Pro Football HOF played on 4 NFL teams ?

Reggie played for (3) in the NFL and (1) in the USFL

Others ?

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I don't care either, I already know Favre is a dink. I do care when people show up and try to defend the toad, that's what I'm in it for.

- Good times, man ... good times.

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Originally posted by Satori:
Has any other member of the Pro Football HOF played on 4 NFL teams ?

Reggie played for (3) in the NFL and (1) in the USFL

Others ?

Jerry Rice (46ers, Raiders, then stints on the Seahawks and Broncos). He never played in a game for the Broncos, and might not have played for the Seahawks either. But he did suit up for both for training camp. Not in the hall yet, but he will be.

Funny, but i was thinking the same thing about Shaq in the NBA. It's very weird to think that he has played on 4 teams, and most likely 5 before he retires. And 2 of those involved trades.

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Originally posted by JJSD:
Pfft. You just want another excuse to wear your outfits.

isn't this a violation of the obscenity standard for this site?
Well, if not, it should be!

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Originally posted by Satori:
Has any other member of the Pro Football HOF played on 4 NFL teams ?

Reggie played for (3) in the NFL and (1) in the USFL

Others ?

The ultimate gun for hire, Deion Sanders, played on 4 or 5 teams

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Originally posted by grbaypack:
I'm just taking my cue from the Packers organization .... they don't seem too occupied or worried about the whole situation. I applaud them for not getting involved. They've wisely moved on.

Have they really? Or are they just acting like they have because it does the organization zero good to keep the blood feud alive in the media?

The reports I always see is that there needs to be healing "on both sides" before Favre could be welcomed back for jersey retirement, Packer HoF enshrinement or whatever other honored alumni function might come up. Maybe the beat reporters are just making assumptions but maybe they've seen enough to know that there is a certain passion about the issue inside the walls of 1265 Lombardi that cannot be made public for professional reasons.

Fortunately, us internet hacks don't have any obligation to be fake and posture for the media. If we have the passion on an issue, we're free to express it. Despite my earlier sarcastic post, it is not at all surprising to me that this topic does have that passion among the fanbase (remember, fan is short for fanatic). In fact, it's the exact opposite of surprising. It's entirely predictable since I've been reading TOG becoming an increasingly hot button issue for Packer fans for, oh, I dunno, 4 years now.

Mark Wilf confirms Vikes interest in Favre.

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"Certainly a player of Brett Favre's (credentials), a Hall of Fame quarterback, with the competitive (drive) he has, that is a player that we would have interest (in), as we would have (for) other players," Wilf said. "But, again, it's (a) process of evaluation and a variety of factors that go into it, and that has to play itself out, and I defer to our coach and our personnel people to really evaluate those issues."

Wilf said he and the ownership group entrusted such decisions to head coach Brad Childress and player personnel vice president Rick Spielman and their respective staffs.

Asked directly if anyone from the organization has met with Favre in the last week, Wilf said, "I'm not aware of any meeting.

"But, the fact is, like I say, any football personnel matters, medical matters, those types of issues, are really issues that we don't typically discuss publicly. And I hope the fans and the media can appreciate that because that's the right way, we feel, to get the best product on the field and get our ultimate goal of a Super Bowl championship."

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Originally posted by Max:
So really, from a draft-pick standpoint the Packers might be better off if he comes out of retirement. If he stays retired, I'm fairly certain they'll be sending their 2010 seventh-rounder to the Jets.

The Jets released Favre so I don't see how they are entitled to any compensation.

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Originally posted by PackerRick:
The Jets released Favre so I don't see how they are entitled to any compensation.

Neither of us have seen the exact deal between the teams, but it's been reported as "If Favre retires after one season, the Jets would receive a 2010 ___________-round pick from the Packers," with that pick dependent on what pick the Packers received from the Jets. (As El-Ka cites above.) Favre being released by the Jets might not have any impact on the deal -- if he stays retired. But, maybe that is one for the lawyers.

We need to start a pool for the date he signs with the vikes.

Favre throwing with HS receivers, again.

Why am I not surprised?

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Though several members of the media we spoke with firmly believe that Favre will play for the Vikings next season - after he’s done weaseling out of mini-camp and organized team activities (OTAs) - the bigger, behind-the-scenes story has been the Hall of Famer’s immense, almost juvenile hatred for Thompson.

According to a source, Favre has tried - unsuccessfully - to plant a vindictive, non-football story about Thompson with various members of the media (local and national) over the last year. Nobody has taken the bait. Most of these media members Favre has tried to “leak” the information to are the same ones who have mostly coddled him throughout the years, and now they just see him as an entitled, mean-spirited, arrogant jerk.

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According to a source, Favre has tried - unsuccessfully - to plant a vindictive, non-football story about Thompson with various members of the media (local and national) over the last year. Nobody has taken the bait. Most of these media members Favre has tried to “leak” the information to are the same ones who have mostly coddled him throughout the years, and now they just see him as an entitled, mean-spirited, arrogant jerk.

Must not have leaked it to Mort or Rachel Nichols then as of yet.

vikes need a new QB, on that front there is little debate

Last 5 drives from TJack vs Philly at home in the playoffs

Punt
Punt
Punt
Punt
Fumble

And if everything goes just exactly right, here is the guy who will replace TJack

Last 5 drives at home in the playoffs:

INT
FG
Punt
Punt
INT

Note the difference.

Stay Classy Brett.

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Originally posted by cuqui:
Why am I not surprised?

Meaning: his reputation is so bad right now that people are just throwing **** and hoping it sticks.

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Originally posted by Satori:
And if everything goes just exactly right, here is the guy who will replace TJack

Note the difference.

Yeah, the QB in the bottom won't get the blame.

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Originally posted by Ed Vedder:

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Originally posted by cuqui:
Why am I not surprised?

Meaning: his reputation is so bad right now that people are just throwing **** and hoping it sticks.

Yep, no ****-throwing from the Favre faction, right Greta?

Guys,

The Packers had every chance to keep Brett Favre. It was obvious that it wasnt going to happen and they wanted to move on... so... if the guy wants to play and stick it to the team that didnt want him, who can blame him. It happens alot.


It does suck that he was the face of the Franchise the last 15 years, but let's be real... if he wants to play in Minnesota there is nothing wrong with it. I'll hope he does well and the Vikings lose all 16.

If he stays retired, which isnt a bad thing either, im sure you will see him in a NFL Studio sometime giving commentary.


Either way, Brett Favre is a Packer for Life no matter what happens. You cant erase a superbowl win and 15+ fun seasons. So try not to get your panties in a bundle and if the competition happens/it happens and it will be fun to watch AR beat him on the field hopefully.

Benedict Arnold was the best General in the American Army and the Hero of many, then he went over to the enemy and failed to make the Hall of Fame. Favres name may live on in infamy around Packerland.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Now I know what to think.