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Re: Positives and negatives

Timpranillo ·
The "standard" offense continues to look predictable, stale, and overmatched by NFL teams that continue to adjust to things that work. They don't have WRs that can consistently just "get open" and "beat their man". Sometimes the do, but not anything close to consistently. Haven't for the last 2 seasons, yet they simply tell the WRs to beat their man. When they play in a spread formation they at times have more success. But, they use it sparingly until in desperation mode. Manbeaters are not...
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Re: Positives and negatives

Music City ·
Do you mean that Rodgers is saving this team from collapse, and that the talent around him is insufficient?
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Re: Positives and negatives

Pack-Man ·
There's more than enough talent on this team to be 6-2 right now, injuries or not. Aaron Rodgers is still an MVP caliber player, the problem is coaching. McStupidface is content to run this team into a brick wall; doing the same things week after week, year after year. McCarthy is an incredibly overrated coach. He's no better than Mike Sherman, not in any respect. Considering how awful Mike Sherman's GM was (himself), you can make a strong case that McCarthy is an inferior coach (and don't...
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Re: Positives and negatives

Eddie ·
Positives: We have a very talented team, we have a HOF QB (that is in a slump), good young talent at WR with Ty Montgomery, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Jordy Nelson (for another year or so) and Trevor Davis. One of the best offensive lines in the league. There is a question at TE, hopefully Jarred Cook can get healthy but not much after him. Rodgers can catch the ball but blocks worse than I do. Eddie Lacy when healthy if a credible threat a RB and Rip is improving at FB. On Defense we have...
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Re: Positives and negatives

Eddie ·
A wonder coach?? We don't need a wonder coach, we need to break from the status quo that has exists today. We need to break from the same stubborn game plans start changing what we do and how we utilize the players we have. If being an "owner" gave any input I would look for a defensive minded Head Coach and get a young offensive coordinator to innovate and invigorate the offense. We don't need Gruden, Dungy or Cowher.
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Fedya ·
I'll do it. Heck, can anyone on x4 be worse than what the Pack currently has?
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Re: Positives and negatives

justanotherpackerfan ·
Positive: It was a beautiful fall day in Wisconsin yesterday. Negative: I wasted 3+ hours of it, inside, watching a dumpster burn. Not sure if + or -: I'll do it again next week
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Re: Positives and negatives

pkr_north ·
I just don't know if its coaching and/or playcalling...when I see AR missing guys that he should have hit. It's a quick hit offense, or at least it appears that is the way he should be playing it...he had SOOO many open guys that if he followed the design of the play, would work - he either :1. can't do it anymore, 2. has no faith in the system, 3. has no faith in wr's, 4. is not into the game. At every point in the game, I had said all of those things to myself. I get a bad game, everybody...
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Re: Positives and negatives

DH13 ·
+HHCD finally playing like a playmaker +Ryan showing glimpses of a good ILB +Montgomery showing what an x factor can do for an offense +Adams showing progress - losing to a 3-5 Colts team that deserves to be 3-5. That's a bad omen. Game wasn't as close as score. -middle of the D again proving fatal -OL. Our OL was getting a lot of praise through 5 or 6 weeks because D's were rushing 2 or 3. Now that they're sending more, we see that really are average. -MM. Glimpses of creativity to bust out...
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Re: Positives and negatives

The Heckler ·
I for one think that he can get this team up off the mat and turn things around. I am way in the minority on this one but I don't blame MM for this record. On offense I blame the complete lack of running game and nothing from the TE position. In the NFL they are going to figure out your offense really quickly if you cannot run the ball and make things balanced. Defensively, I am not as inclined to be as lenient about it. I think that Capers scheme has gotten stale and teams have figured out...
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Re: Positives and negatives

phaedrus ·
I don't get the "we have so much talent argument." Do we have a legit #1 wide receiver right now? I don't think so. Perhaps laden with decent 2's and 3's. With Lacy out, do we have a legit #1 RB right now? No. With Cook hurt, do we have a legit #1 TE right now? No. Three top DB's out. Matthews out.
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Re: Positives and negatives

phaedrus ·
Maynard: I don't believe for a second that Jordy, Cobb, Monty, and even Adams are not as good as Freeman, Brooks, and Rison. Lacy and Rip are likely as good as Bennett and Hendo. They are missing the catching threat out of the backfield with Levens, but Monty might fill that. Biggest weakness is TE, but Cook could provide that. OK, I'll stick to the 96 team which I admit may not be fair, but here goes. At receiver, Brooks is out (hurt against SF regular season game). Freeman was a #1 level...
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Re: Positives and negatives

fightphoe93 ·
Agreed Phaedrus, that '96 team was very good in the skill positions. Maybe the only thing this 2016 team does better than the '96 team is pass block. Could you imagine what the '96 special teams unit alone would do against the '16 unit? Favre might never even get on the field as the special teams might get like 3 TDs alone against Zook's boys. What's Nolan Cromwell up to these days?
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Re: Positives and negatives

slowmo ·
And again, who would that be???
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Re: Positives and negatives

Timpranillo ·
No one. We must stick with Mike McCarthy of the rest of eternity, because he won a Super Bowl 6 years ago. And, it's better to stick with something that clearly isn't working instead of risking something may not work either. So stick with the ineffective guy, because you might pick another ineffective guy. Top notch thinking. #leadership
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Re: Positives and negatives

slowmo ·
Nice strawman there. Didn't say MM is a coach for life. Just merely asked who the better coach replacement is. Rather simple question. Ready, fire, aim. #set up for failure
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Re: Positives and negatives

Grave Digger ·
Saying McCarthy should be fired is easy. Offering a real solution is the difficult part. Who do you replace McCarthy with is a legit question? Go to perennially underachieving HC lIke Lovie Smith? Bring in an up and comer with no HC experience like Darrell Bevell? Or steal from the Belichick tree with Matt Patricia or retread Josh McDaniel? Yeah it's been 6 years since McCarthy won a SB, Bill Cowher went a decade after losing a SB before he even went to another. He kept his team in the hunt...
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Re: Positives and negatives

Maxi54 ·
First of all, pay me like the Packers top brass who's job it is to live, study, and know these kinds of things. I'll quit my current job and spend from now until the end of the playoffs researching, studying, turning over every rock, consulting with every good football mind I can find, etc.. I'll look into every assistant currently in the NFL, every viable college coach, any head coaches who I think could become available, and every ex-head/assistant coach who is currently not employed and...
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Re: Positives and negatives

Johnson ·
Positives As I almost always do-I taped the game, even though I didn't know the outcome, it is a quicker, less painful alternative to live action Montgomery is turning into a hell of a player The offensive comeback showed that they are still alive and kicking Better draft position and no doubt a new D-Coordinator for 2017 The whole league other than the Pats seems pretty average. Negatives That was a 1970s style loss...we received two unforced gifts and still took a beating......not good...
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Pakrz ·
Disagree.
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Re: Positives and negatives

ChilliJon ·
Today Mike said "it's a man to man game. Didn't do enough to win those matchups". He also said after watching the tape again he felt the energy yesterday was actually pretty good. Look. It's admirable stuff that Mike thinks his recievers are capable of more and he just needs to unlock their inner greatness. But that isn't a young Jordy, engaged Jennings, and crafty Driver running ISO routes. It's Adams, a not yet back Jordy, Janis and Dick Rodgers. If the plan is to have those guys work...
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H5 ·
It's admirable that he defends them like this in public. But, he better be sticking his foot up their ass in private if he actually believes it is a winning 1-on-1's issue. I'm fairly certain he isn't doing the latter. There might not have been a schism between Rodgers and McCarthy before, but there may be one festering. While Rodgers hasn't been Rodgers much over the past 20 games, when he's had success it is when they've gone off script. I don't believe school yard is sustainable, but when...
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PackerPatrick ·
We don't know if Harbaugh would refuse until we ask him. I don't think a defensive minded coach is the answer either. I want someone who can utilize what we already what we have on offense and pick his coordinators. I think we have seen a talent drain on the GM staff and maybe that needs to be addressed as well.
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Re: Positives and negatives

PackerBackerDPM ·
Something about that last paragraph rings true with me. Yeah there is a multitude of ways to fix a bunion but I know what works for me and that's how I fix it. Do "what you do" if you will but at least do it well and the Packers simply are not. There is just no identity. I know much of this discussion about the coaching both on offense and defense and to be honest it wouldn't be upset to see come changes but yesterday it is an execution thing for me. Offensive, you have a Jordy over throw...
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Re: Positives and negatives

MichiganPacker ·
Good rationale post. The personnel issues related to the RBs have to come under some scrutiny for TT/MM did there. Letting go of Sitton might have been the right choice, but somehow thinking that Barclay was an adequate option was shortsighted at best. This is still a borderline playoff team, but I think that's the ceiling this year. At best, this is a team that will likely just miss the playoffs this year or limp in and get beat in the first round. I agree with others, this team has never...
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Re: Sneaky Pete vs I Suck Feet game thread (Sea vs Buff)

Timpranillo ·
Why even have refs in Seattle. Just let the Hags do whatever the hell they want.
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Re: Sneaky Pete vs I Suck Feet game thread (Sea vs Buff)

ChilliJon ·
Why do any of us watch this show anymore?
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Re: Positives and negatives

BrainDed ·
He is failing them by refusing to help them beat the man coverage. We see a bubble screen now and then and that's the extent of the man beaters. Well, let me say from what we can see. I'm not watching from the birds eye so I just have to assume that when Rodgers is holding the ball for 6 seconds it's because it's the stale asa plays that we've seen for 20 games now.
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Re: Playoffs

Cavetoad ·
The more I think about it and hear pundit's blathering, the more I think this is the case. Item 1: Beat Purdue this weekend. As noted, it's really out of our control. Obviously nobody was impressed by the huge win over IL. We need to keep getting huge wins and dominating defensive play even with all the injuries. Now with Meeechigan loosing their QB, it's going to make this harder for us as far as the polls go. Fact is, we have to win the B1G. No way about it and we can't control the rest.
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Re: Playoffs

SanDiegoPackFan ·
hmmm....being able to give an opinion without being criticized or shouted down is now "stupid" ? but, I digress.... Goldie: I feel just the opposite. If this was a Gary Anderson-led team, then yes, I would be worried. But I do believe Chryst has this team very focused on one thing: winning this game. If anything Illinois and Purdue might have been let downs....but over the past 2 weeks we've seen this team as taking on game at a time. We are a better TEAM than Minnesota. Our defense will...
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Re: Playoffs

Goldie ·
A blowout?? Now that's what I'm talking about...it's all I've ever wanted with all my teams....a crushing if you will. Thanks SDPF.
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Re: Playoffs

mrtundra ·
Minnesota was leading our division this season, for a while. Do not take them lightly. If our defense comes to play and can put pressure on Leidner, we should be okay. Minnesota teams ALWAYS play Wisconsin teams tough, no matter what the sport. This game will be no different. I hope Chryst has the team prepared. GO BUCKY!!!
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Re: Playoffs

Cavetoad ·
I think they would realize it'd be hard to ignore the B1G champion. Let's just go win that and see how the chips fall. Either way, it's going to be a special bowl season for Bucky. Nobody expected them to do so well with the coaching changes and everything. This season has been amazing and I am damn happy to have been able to watch. The rest upcoming is gravy to me as a fan.
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Re: Playoffs

Music City ·
I do not think so. Washington plays in a down conference and has no signature wins. The Badgers beat LSU, who was the only team to compete with 'Bama. And while the MSU win is no longer a factor, beating Nebraska and Iowa on the road, and taking OSU to overtime and Michigan to the brink is better than anything Washington has done. To then complete it with a win over Penn State to be Conference champion in the toughest conference in football this year clinches it. There will be 2 B1G teams in...
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Re: Playoffs

FreeSafety ·
Great post. But in this last part I think this is where strength of schedule has to come into play. If you are going to use record to give Washington the edge, I cannot agree. Not with their weak SOS and the way WI had to face a gauntlet of quality opponents week after week. And WI looked and played well in their only two losses. Holding MI to 14 at the Big House after they had just put up 45 and 49 on two other now top 10 teams and being in the game right up until an amazing 4th quarter...
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Music City ·
If you're just looking at numbers next to their team names, sure. But who have these teams played? What are their strength of schedules? You will see that WSU got beat by E. Washington and doesn't have a single good win on their record- I don't even know how they're ranked. They fattened up on the weak underlings of the conference and lost every game against a team that didn't suck. Utah has losses to Cal and Oregon (both really bad teams) in addition to losses to Washington and Colorado.
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Re: Playoffs

Cavetoad ·
I have to agree. Best case scenario was Michigan winning and Bucky winning the title game. Now even if Bucky wins, they are still going be be considered a lesser 2 win team. And, TBH, Michigan did beat both the B1G champs regardless. My argument would be that Bucky did not lose at Iowa like Michigan did... but head to head should count too. I would have loved a Michigan/Bucky title game. It would have been epic. But, it's not what is.... I can see the national arguments for what it should be...
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Re: Playoffs

The Heckler ·
I noticed the same thing the other night and on ESPN radio the last day or so. PSU is talked about (they should be they deserve it) but not much about UW usually and if they do they mention their losses or they are boring etc. right on queue they were talking about how the committee may want to have the best matchups in the playoffs and who do they show? yep UW.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

PackerPatrick ·
+ Considering we were short on olinemen, the offense had some good plays. Lots of time to work on timing with the pass game. I believe it will pay off in the future. Starks looked better than he did pre injury. Adams and Jordy played well. I cannot fault the playcalling. (I guess a not complain now becomes a positive) - I loved some of the fire on defense but it did not help stop our porous defensive backfield. Injurys to Bak and Ryan. Why do we have 7 wrs but no backup true MLB? Just the...
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"We"-Ka-Bong ·
Do you or don't you? And really, you are telling us all you couldn't tell that was a woman?
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Pikes Peak ·
Just Like a Woman Bob Dylan L Nobody feels any pain Tonight as I stand inside the rain Ev'rybody knows That Baby's got new clothes But lately I see her ribbons and her bows Have fallen from her curls She takes just like a woman, yes, she does She makes love just like a woman, yes, she does And she aches just like a woman But she breaks just like a little girl Queen Mary She's my friend Yes, I believe I'll go see her again Nobody has to guess That Baby can't be blessed Till she sees finally...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

PackerBackerDPM ·
IN all seriousness yes, the division is still there to be had. As far as getting hot and making a run if they do get in...not so much. I do think MM is gone barring a Super Bowl. I think TT gets one more year, if he wants it. IN pro sports coaches go first then the responsibility falls on the players and if the crap show continues then they will start to see the exit door.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Diggr14 ·
You are right man, that just goes to show how bad our division is right now. If they can take care of business in division (win all 3 at the end of season) and win 3 of the next 4 games. They finish 10-6 and that would be good enough. 9-7 might be cutting it.. so 2-2 coupled with winning the last 3 might be good enough too... but they need to win those division games for certain.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Pistol GB ·
No sir, if anything it was worse. The dagger was just when the defense finally makes a stop and we are supposed to get the ball back down "only" by 13, Daniels gets an Unsporstmanlike Conduct penalty to keep the drive alive. Titans scored a play or 2 later to go up by 20 late in the 3rd quarter and you could tell it was over at that point. A putrid ending to a putrid performance. Before that, the Titans made the defense look like high schoolers and the offense looked like granny did in fact...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

Timmy! ·
+ Individual performances by Adams and Cobb. Starks did reasonably well. Spriggs did pretty good for coming in cold. He's still got work to do, though. Hell, I'm even going to give Barclay a '+'. At least he wasn't a turnstile today! - Lost to a 4-5 team, after losing to a 3-5 team the week before. No pass rush. None. No defense. None. 7-0 before folks have found their seats, 21-0 at the end of the 1st qtr, and 5 TDs by halftime is NOT good football. Yeah, being fairly decimated by injury is...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

CHEEZE ·
+ Division is still there to be had. -Packers appear to have little to no ability to win a game at this point. Anything having to do with the division is moot.
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

SanDiegoPackFan ·
Sunset. People don't stand around looking at a sunrise. They want to get going. Most people will stop and have a beer watching the end of the day. That being said, if it's a Packers Sunset - it might indicate that darkness will soon be on the horizon. I look at it that it represents the sun is setting on the recent Packer woes...tomorrow is another day and hope is on the way. All we have to do is win the division. I don't think a Wild Card spot will be available this year. But the division...
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Re: Since No One Else Has The Stomach For It....Pos/Neg

FLPACKER ·
Eddie has amazing feet for a guy his size, which makes him a good RB, however there is just no way that he is as good at 260 as he is at 230. Look at Elliot from Dallas. Picture him with 30 pounds of added fat on him, do you think he'd be as good as he is now?
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Re: #9 Wisconsin @ #22 Crieghton

chickenboy ·
MC, with this veteran team, I do not find it encouraging at all. However, like it has been said, this game will mean nothing when it really matters.
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Re: Interesting Post From an ND Football Board

Diggr14 ·
If they fire MM, they need to fire TT as well. This lack of talent has much more to do with Ted than Mike. Im not a big fan of how McCarthy calls a game or manages the clock.. but the one thing he has seemed to be able to do decently in years past is get guys to play for him. Sort of like Mike Sherman... bumbled a lot of other things, but the guys played hard under his watch.
 
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