@YATittle posted:
Wow
See? It’s working. Except for the one season when they fucked up the plan is working.
When it comes to Sunday afternoon comedy, the Bears usually provide a good laugh
@GBFanForLife posted:When it comes to Sunday afternoon comedy, the Bears usually provide a good laugh
They just got a pick. Coincidentally, Mahomes is already done. Middle of 3rd quarter.😂
Latest on their DC is he resigned due to "inappropriate activity". Nothing added to that so far.
I also read the report that it was "inappropriate" but not illegal activity.
So the previous rumors/reports are not accurate.
Or someone is lying.
The truth always comes out fellas & ladies.
Just wait ....
It's not as shocking as Trestman because the bar was set much lower after Nagy than it was after Lovie.
Can someone remind me how MLF's record compares to past coaches? I can't quite recall.
I'll be rooting for the Bears next week. We need them to have the tie breaker over Denver in the race for Caleb Williams.
What if Williams doesn't want to play for CHI, ARI, or DEN?
Then he goes back to USC for a year and ends up with a loser franchise anyway. He can try to force a trade, but most successful franchises are not going to be willing to part with the draft capital needed for such a trade.
@H5 posted:What if Williams doesn't want to play for CHI, ARI, or DEN?
I think Williams should pull a "Manning" and ask for a trade - to Green Bay - for a 7th rounder - so we can manage where in the NFL he ends up - for a 1st rounder. Basic personnel management 101.
Ref Lovie - he has much better talent than the teams after he was fired. I think the TBSS were thinking a different GM/HC could get them over the jump. They were wrong.
F ‘em
He is making approx 2.6 mill this year at USC, prolly over 5 if he stays another year.
@Fandame posted:They clearly expected Fields to take the next step, and he has stayed stagnant. Then when Love played so well, all the air went out of their balloons. We heard so much trash talk from Bears fans about how the GBP ownership was over, and now Love has picked up where Rodgers left off. Couldn't happen to a nicer group of fans!
Where's that BearDown character been?
ETA: Appears from above posts he's made a token appearance & vanished.
Chicago looks like the worst team in the league and nobody is even competing with their suckness. They look like they will be the team to have the 1st pick in the draft again. Caleb Williams' dad is saying his son may not sign up for the draft if he doesn't like the team that is to draft him. That would be the ultimate slap to that franchise.
If I were Caleb Williams' dad, I would wait until the middle of the first round - and then sign up.
Afternoon guys on 670 the score, caller brings up Love's comeback and host went off on how good he looks and how he finds it disgusting and offensive and a touch of revolting. He thought Love would suck because the Packers deserve suck but Love looks poised. Both hosts are just apoplectic with the bears and Fields and the fact the Packers might have "yet another one".
@Floridarob posted:Chicago looks like the worst team in the league and nobody is even competing with their suckness. They look like they will be the team to have the 1st pick in the draft again. Caleb Williams' dad is saying his son may not sign up for the draft if he doesn't like the team that is to draft him. That would be the ultimate slap to that franchise.
So he'll play school ball for another year and get drafted by a different suckiest (or maybe the same one) team next year?
The NIL money changes things. Before NIL, guys came out early to get the payday. With NIL, some of those top college players are making millions already, so the push to leave school for money is not the same.
@DH13 posted:So he'll play school ball for another year and get drafted by a different suckiest (or maybe the same one) team next year?
It's worked at least twice in the past. One time when the top pick QB had leverage in another sport and one time when they didn't.
John Elway forced his way from the then Baltimore Colts to Denver in part because he had a potentially viable baseball career (2nd round pick in the MLB draft and with an OPS of 896 in one year at Single A). The Colts traded him (the #1 pick in 1983) for Chris Hinton (the #4 pick that year and a 7-time Pro Bowler at LT), Ron Solt (19th overall the following year and a Pro Bowler before getting hurt in his 4th year), and Mark Herrmann (career back-up QB). The Broncos won that trade, but the Colts got the equivalent of Bakhtiari and E. Jenkins back, so it wasn't like they got nothing.
Eli Manning forced his way from San Diego to the NY Giants, but the Chargers had options that might have been better (Phillip Rivers was a much better regular season QB). The Chargers essentially traded Eli to the Giants for Philip Rivers (who was the 3rd overall pick) and the following year's #1 which turned out to be Shawne Merriman. In retrospect, the Chargers almost certainly still make that trade.
The problem for Caleb Williams is that it's not worth it to trade him to a team that doesn't have a top 5 pick, and by definition all those teams are potentially bad situations. Given the compensation for Justin Fields, Bryce Young, and Lance Fields, good teams won't have the draft capital to trade for the #1 overall pick. Houston might be good sooner than later and will likely have 2 top 10 picks, but they don't need a QB. Otherwise, you are looking at the following teams:
Arizona - who has a guy making 40 million next year who costs 82 million in dead cap to move on from. They have two potential top 10 picks.
Chicago - who has become the embarrassment of the league. They have theirs and Charlottes first round picks, so that might be two top 10s.
Denver - letting Russ cook, but got mercied this week by McDaniel to not put up 73 points and set the NFL record.
Others that would be possible would the Vikings, Jets, and Giants.
But, the most likely scenario is Chicago. Their own pick will be top 5 and with Bryce Young getting nicked up, it's possible they'll have two top 5s.
I think Caleb Williams ends up in Chicago.
Justin Fields has potential. The best thing that could happen to him now is to play (and lose with that shitty situation) for the next 4-5 weeks and then have a minor injury that forces the Bears to sit him (for Nate Peterman- LOL). Then, they draft Williams. The NFL media goes into hype mode again for the next Bears QB they'll probably screw up and Fields can start over somewhere else.
Fields could very easily go sit somewhere for 2-3 years with no pressure on him and emerge as a very good NFL QB. I'd love to have him behind Love (and maybe Clifford) in Green Bay for him to get a chance to do that. Heck, maybe he goes somewhere and becomes a Taysom Hill type with speed (RB, occasional QB, WR). The expectations in Chicago were just way too much for a guy with a lot of talent but whose toughest reads and throws in college were mostly in practice against his own teammates at Georgia and OSU. Just like expecting Lance Fields to be throwing passes against teams like Northern Iowa and the next year be the starting QB on a Super Bowl contender.
Jordan Love should be so grateful he's where he's at right now. If he would have had to play right away he might be out of the league by now.
Another one (high draft choice QB with potential ruined by impatient owners, GN ‘‘s or coaches) bites the dust
I have doubted Field's ability from the pocket for a while, but watching guys review film of him this year, he is rarely even in a position to make a play, I have seen multiple breakdown guys such as JT repeatedly just say they have no idea what the play is trying to accomplish. The line is horrific in execution of pass protection, and there appears to be players on each play not executing. I actually almost started feeling bad for Fields, b/c even if he was doing what he is supposed to, there is no play there often.
Bear's secondary is beat up and that is not a good recipe to be going into Arrowhead for the Chiefs home opener. Chiefs were extra jacked to get their offense on a roll after a slow start this year with some new pieces.
Playing the Donkey's this week is going to be very revealing if there is any chance in hell they salvage their jobs (coaches and Fields). If they can't put up some points on a team that just gave up 70? On the other hand, they are going agains Peyton and he is the type of coach to rally a team.
@MichiganPacker posted:It's worked at least twice in the past. One time when the top pick QB had leverage in another sport and one time when they didn't.
John Elway forced his way from the then Baltimore Colts to Denver in part because he had a potentially viable baseball career (2nd round pick in the MLB draft and with an OPS of 896 in one year at Single A). The Colts traded him (the #1 pick in 1983) for Chris Hinton (the #4 pick that year and a 7-time Pro Bowler at LT), Ron Solt (19th overall the following year and a Pro Bowler before getting hurt in his 4th year), and Mark Herrmann (career back-up QB). The Broncos won that trade, but the Colts got the equivalent of Bakhtiari and E. Jenkins back, so it wasn't like they got nothing.
Eli Manning forced his way from San Diego to the NY Giants, but the Chargers had options that might have been better (Phillip Rivers was a much better regular season QB). The Chargers essentially traded Eli to the Giants for Philip Rivers (who was the 3rd overall pick) and the following year's #1 which turned out to be Shawne Merriman. In retrospect, the Chargers almost certainly still make that trade.
So it's happened twice in the last 40 years. I don't really see the threat.
I could see Fields being a decent QB under the right circumstances but not with the trainwreck around him.
That said, he just seems to be poor at quickly reading defenses and unless he significantly improves that, he’ll be nothing more than backup QB caliber. He showed some flashes of competence last year but I haven’t seen any of those flashes yet this year.
@titmfatied posted:
Apparently they had some F's to give
@titmfatied posted:
Who said nobody in Chicago gives an F?