I would guess they’re looking at an FA to play the Nickel role and will draft an outside Corner. It’s a little easier to play outside early on vs. the slot.
Herschel posted:kcpuck posted:I'd rather have Nelson than Cobb.
You need to pee in the cup. Cobb is five years younger and more durable at this stage. Jordy is quickly descending to Drivertown where a linebacker can cover him.
Maybe a month or 2 ago, I was listening to sports radio and there was a metrics guy from one of those stat based sites (Maybe ProFootballOutsiders.com?) getting interviewed. The topic of Randall Cobb came up, and what this guy said about Cobb surprised me. I believe he said that Cobb was 2nd only to Antonio Brown in terms of whatever their criteria was to evaluate getting separation from the man covering him on a particular play.
I have to admit that in watching the Pack last year, I didn't see that kind of performance from Cobb, but maybe he's better than his stats may show if that guy's evaluation was somewhat in the ballpark.
On a side note, I believe www.firegutekunst.com is still available on godaddy.com if anyone has had enough of him already.
Yup, should be able to get a nickel CB for a reasonable price. And cross your fingers that King is ready to step up and start. House may be back too, unless I've missed something.
Curious if Gute tries to move up to get one of the top DBs in the draft. I've been hearing that Fitzpatrick, Ward and James are all slated to go after #6,
Pack should just sign Eric Decker for cheap. Hell, he could wear Gordy Nelson's old jersey and no one would know the difference.
Will the Packers give Graham hazardous duty pay for the Viking games?
And hard to argue with letting Nelson go. Sucks but was bound to happen. It was either him or Cobb after the Adams contract, and seems like Gute went with the younger option. Maybe he comes back on the cheap but my guess is some team with a lot of cap room like the Browns, Jets, or 49ers throws him $20m for 2 years.
Why? Is the Vikings defense going to be flopping all over the field again like in the NFCC?
EJ Gaines is still available I think. Good CB .
Yeah I’m guessing either the Browns or Seahawks grab him. He’s a leader and those are two franchises trying to undergo a culture change. Wouldn’t be surprised if he goes closer to home with Kansas City or Denver either.
As I posted earlier, was thinking NE would be a good guess at a landing spot:
Jordy Nelson had Aaron Rodgers as his quarterback. Could he have Tom Brady as his next quarterback?
Jordan Schultz of Yahoo! Sports reports that the receiver knew the Packers were releasing him and already had the Patriots targeted for his next team. The Raiders, Ravens, 49ers and Seahawks also are expected to have interest in Nelson, Schultz adds.
Eye Heart Green & Gold posted:“Things are going to be different under Gutey!!!
Wilkerson!
Graham!”
:airleakingoutofballoonchat:
Pat Robinson is the top CB left according to PFF followed by Tramon Williams, EJ Gaines and Rashaan Melvin. Wouldn’t mind seeing Tramon back, still aggressive on the ball even if he doesn’t have the deep speed anymore.
Why? Is Zim Zam going to have 1 of his goons intentionally try & injure him?
Disagree on the Pats being a good landing spot for Jordy. Brady doesn't have the accuracy. JMHO
Brown Paper Sack posted:Pack should just sign Eric Decker for cheap. Hell, he could wear Gordy Nelson's old jersey and no one would know the difference.
Oh look.
You misspelled a Packer player's name...how original of you....again.
Blair Kiel posted:CU....Good point.
Get on the QB in 3 seconds and suddenly your corners become shut-down guys.
As I kept telling TT. BTW, the restraining order has been lifted.
Is cb still cleaning off his monitor?
He’s just excited because his QBs name is Cousins and that also happens to be what he and his wife are. I’m happy to stoke this excitement that Vikings fans are feeling, it will make their tears taste sweeter when they’re once again disappointed come January (more like December).
This is where I came in, mad about the lack of FA moves. This is nice to see.
If Bradford is worth $20 million per year, AR 12 is worth $40 million.
New Raiders WRs coach Edgar Bennett oversaw Packers' WRs from 2011 to 2014. Their coordinator from 2015 to 2017. Reggie McKenzie with Packers when Jordy Nelson drafted there. And then, Derek Carr. A lot attracting Nelson to Oakland. https://t.co/QYCA0ZeqH5
— Michael Gehlken (@GehlkenNFL) March 14, 2018
Amid frenzy, Raiders been measured these past two days. Some action on Wednesday: former Packers WR Jordy Nelson is visiting team, source said.
— Michael Gehlken (@GehlkenNFL) March 14, 2018
http://bleacherreport.com/arti...-the-nfl?share=other
“The Vikings got played!” according to Mike Freeman. 🤗
Lombardi: “There is a tendency to stay with the players that won the championship, even if he isn’t as good as he was. And it’s the very human thing to do. However, there is no room for that type of emotion. Football is a hardheaded cold business."
— Jeff Ash (@JeffAshGB) March 14, 2018
Same today. https://t.co/Wnx9Nr1mM0
As to whether Nelson was offered less money to stay, Demovsky says:
"If the Green Bay Packers offered Jordy Nelson a pay cut -- and indications are they did -- then it must have been so low that the one-time Pro Bowl receiver decided to take his chances somewhere else.
Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst would not say whether that was an option before he released Nelson on Tuesday, although he indicated there were several scenarios that were discussed before the decision was reached.
"There were a lot of discussions that went on," Gutekunst said. "In fairness to him, we won't get into those kind of discussions."
http://www.espn.com/blog/nfcno...best-decision-for-us
Did any of these discussions entail the Packers sending his old locker to him in Kansas?
How long before Gordy and Darsnivveling Randall start leaking insider info about the reclusive hermit kingdom of the Packers, like Glenn Jennings did?
Oh, the huge manatee!
Loser
FinnLander posted:Jordy with AR last year:
Game 1 - 7 for 79, long of 32, 1 TD
Game 2 - missed
Game 3 - 6 for 52, long of 23, 2 TD
Game 4 - 4 for 75, long of 58, 2 TD
Game 5 - 2 for 24, long of 14, 1 TD
Game 6 - 6 for 60, long of 26, 0 TD (AR injured, was 2 of 4 at the time)
Hundley killed Nelson's career. Here's hoping that Jordy resigns w/ GB at a reasonable rate.
Take another look at those games with AR:
Game1 - 1 catch for 32, six for 47 (<8 yds ave)
Game 3 - 1 catch for 23, five for 29 (<6 ave)
Game 4 - 1 catch for 58, three for 17 (<6 ave)
Game 5 - 1 catch for 14, one for 10 (10 ave)
Game 6 - 1 catch for 26, five for 34 (<7 ave)
Jordy was good for one long catch per game, but his average on the others was not that of a No. 1 WR. If I recall, most of the TDs were also short. And he had Adams to take pressure off him. Hundley didn’t kill Jordy’s career; it was already tailing off.
Love Jordy and a class act, but his production was dropping.
Fandame posted:FinnLander posted:Jordy with AR last year:
Game 1 - 7 for 79, long of 32, 1 TD
Game 2 - missed
Game 3 - 6 for 52, long of 23, 2 TD
Game 4 - 4 for 75, long of 58, 2 TD
Game 5 - 2 for 24, long of 14, 1 TD
Game 6 - 6 for 60, long of 26, 0 TD (AR injured, was 2 of 4 at the time)
Hundley killed Nelson's career. Here's hoping that Jordy resigns w/ GB at a reasonable rate.
Take another look at those games with AR:
Game1 - 1 catch for 32, six for 47 (<8 yds ave)
Game 3 - 1 catch for 23, five for 29 (<6 ave)
Game 4 - 1 catch for 58, three for 17 (<6 ave)
Game 5 - 1 catch for 14, one for 10 (10 ave)
Game 6 - 1 catch for 26, five for 34 (<7 ave)
Jordy was good for one long catch per game, but his average on the others was not that of a No. 1 WR. If I recall, most of the TDs were also short. And he had Adams to take pressure off him. Hundley didn’t kill Jordy’s career; it was already tailing off.
Love Jordy and a class act, but his production was dropping.
Yes, blaming Hundley would be racist
Six TDs in that time period and missing one game? Pretty good production if yah ask me. Short or long, a TD is a TD.
Aaron’s good bye message for Jordy......
Fandame posted:FinnLander posted:Jordy with AR last year:
Game 1 - 7 for 79, long of 32, 1 TD
Game 2 - missed
Game 3 - 6 for 52, long of 23, 2 TD
Game 4 - 4 for 75, long of 58, 2 TD
Game 5 - 2 for 24, long of 14, 1 TD
Game 6 - 6 for 60, long of 26, 0 TD (AR injured, was 2 of 4 at the time)
Hundley killed Nelson's career. Here's hoping that Jordy resigns w/ GB at a reasonable rate.
Take another look at those games with AR:
Game1 - 1 catch for 32, six for 47 (<8 yds ave)
Game 3 - 1 catch for 23, five for 29 (<6 ave)
Game 4 - 1 catch for 58, three for 17 (<6 ave)
Game 5 - 1 catch for 14, one for 10 (10 ave)
Game 6 - 1 catch for 26, five for 34 (<7 ave)
Jordy was good for one long catch per game, but his average on the others was not that of a No. 1 WR. If I recall, most of the TDs were also short. And he had Adams to take pressure off him. Hundley didn’t kill Jordy’s career; it was already tailing off.
Love Jordy and a class act, but his production was dropping.
Facts are facts and I saw the same thing.
Years past Jordy took that quick run-pass option and made the CB miss and turned it into a 1st down. Last year a hand touched him and he fell down.
Cobb is our slot. Time for Adams and Allison to step up... add in Davis and a new TE experiment, there are plenty of weapons, regardless of draftees and other FA pickups.
Now get to work on DBs Gute!
OH! Another factor is Ty Montgomery. RB, Receiver, Combo-platter threat?
We have RB options, Ty really is a wildcard in the mix.
I’d have rather they cut Cobb / Clay than Jordy. I wouldn’t have minded them cutting all 3.. but the first two are very unproductive versus their contracts as well.
The Packers' deal for Jimmy Graham pays $30 million over three years, according to @RapSheet. Graham will earn $22 million of that amount over the first two years of the deal.
— Jason B. Hirschhorn (@by_JBH) March 14, 2018
Pricey
Is Jimmy Graham already the best Packer TE in history?
Bubbles Franks? Paul Coffman?
Not much to choose from.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Why? Is Zim Zam going to have 1 of his goons intentionally try & injure him?
The Flyers are on the schedule this year?