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Alright....so Joe will FaceTime #8 if/when necessary. That's great to hear.

I hope you're all ready because I believe Rodgers will have an MVP style year. He may not win it but, barring catastrophic injury, he'll be in the conversation.

The Jets O-Line is the biggest

It all starts on Monday Night and I'll be watching


Mastering Aaron Rodgers’ famed cadence a tough Jets task: ‘Never had to study’ before

NY Post

By Brian Costello

Published Sep. 6, 2023, 7:11 p.m. ET

... Rodgers likes to say he is “intentional” in practice, meaning he thinks every snap in practice should serve a purpose. He is not one who goes through the motions.

“I just don’t like wasting reps. It’s kind of a weird psychosis,” Rodgers said. “If we’re out there doing something, let’s get something out of it. Instead of just going through the motions and you’re in a 20-play walk-through and every play is on one, why not have five plays on one, eight plays on double count, three plays on a quick count and two plays on a dummy count? Like, just test it. It shows you, can a guy play or not? Can a guy think and play? We need guys who can think quickly, listen, and then react at the same time, every single play.”

Rodgers said it is about training the mind as well as the body in practice in order to get ready for the games.

A coach in Green Bay told Rodgers and the Packers’ offense they should turn off their brains, but he does not see it that way.

“They can’t just turn their minds off,” Rodgers said. “There’s been times in the other offense and every coach has their clichés, but there was a cliché about, just turn your brain off. That’s just not how I play football. I don’t want my guys to play football like that. The smartest players are the best players, and I need my guys to be able to think in real time and react quickly and not turn their brain off. That’s just not the offense we play.”

Mastering Rodgers’ cadence is part of the process of being a smart player. continue




There's more past the click including Saleh asking MLF about it. Didn't want to post the whole article. Good read.

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I don't even want the season to start, because the hype is so much more fun than the finality of a win or loss (or tie!)

I hope the Jets win 12 games (or more) - I just want to see good football & I know this Jet team plays great defense and runs the ball well.

We're going to see some fun twists and turns this season.

People.picking KC to repeat. Nope....not me

Skip to 11:30 to get past the host boring his audience with a drawn out description of his morning and get right to the first question with Ty Dunne. Had to chuckle at the host describing his Jets-fan friend as having a closet full of Jerseys that didn't pan out.

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@Boris posted:

I don't even want the season to start, because the hype is so much more fun than the finality of a win or loss (or tie!)

I hope the Jets win 12 games (or more) - I just want to see good football & I know this Jet team plays great defense and runs the ball well.

We're going to see some fun twists and turns this season.

People.picking KC to repeat. Nope....not me

I hope they win zero games so we can have the #1 pick, but that’s not going to happen. This Jets team is good.

@Boris posted:

Don't disagree @Tschmack - but to simply poo poo Rodgers contributions as just "average" isn't right either.

The Bear NFCCG, I think he was going to go off against them too. Rodgers scored that rushing TD to start the game and got blasted in the back. I don't think he was right after that hit & the Bears always played that safe Tampa 2 (Lovie) defense which requires patience from the QB to dink and dunk your way down the field moving the sticks. Rodgers always wanted the splash play & he couldn't get it.

The defense definitely came through vs. The Bears and let's not forget it wasn't against Jay Cutler either.... Good old Caleb Hanie 🤭 helped propel the Pack to the OWL 🦉 that year.

The Packers don't even come remotely close to winning the SB in 2010 without Rodgers, plain and simple. End of conversation. They don't even sniff the playoffs with those injuries. Everyone just stop.

@Boris posted:

I don't even want the season to start, because the hype is so much more fun than the finality of a win or loss (or tie!)

I hope the Jets win 12 games (or more) - I just want to see good football & I know this Jet team plays great defense and runs the ball well.

We're going to see some fun twists and turns this season.

People.picking KC to repeat. Nope....not me

I'm being serious...how do you stay so emotionally detached? And I don't mean that as a criticism . I just wish I had it in me.

@Boris posted:

I don't even want the season to start, because the hype is so much more fun than the finality of a win or loss (or tie!)

I hope the Jets win 12 games (or more) - I just want to see good football & I know this Jet team plays great defense and runs the ball well.

We're going to see some fun twists and turns this season.

People.picking KC to repeat. Nope....not me

But we don't want the Jets to win 12 games or more doesn't that affect how high the potential draft pick could be?

I totally agree on KC.  They have had a real good run but I just feel like they are very due to have some injuries and a down year.

The only thing I care about is that Rodgers plays 65% of the snaps.  The more games they lose the better for draft position.  

So much of this season is already being consumed by the Jets which is fine with me.  Call it the Hard Knocks jinx or 8 just not living up to the hype but I have a feeling it’s going to be difficult for the NYJ to go far this season.

I also think it’s going to make for great fanfare and entertainment for the league so more power to them and us.  

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Skip to 4:14 to get right to the Rodgers interview



Edit: finally listened to this whole thing and it's REALLY good. Talks in depth about the reasons for his jump passes and reveals the nickname he had for MLF.

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The Packers don't even come remotely close to winning the SB in 2010 without Rodgers, plain and simple. End of conversation. They don't even sniff the playoffs with those injuries. Everyone just stop.

Wasn't he also the SB MVP?  Christ, people.  PIT had the #1 ranked D that year. 

Also true they don't win that game without what their D did.  Both can be true.

They don't call it a TEAM game for nothing.

Offense, defense, wefense - it all has to work together a little better than the other team to come out on top.

True story.  We have been talking about 2010 and that is the perfect example.  All three phases of the Packers that year played extremely well especially considering all the injuries that year.  You do those things and have good coaching and great things could happen.  Since 2010 the Packers have had some really good teams but it always seemed to be one phase of their game that was weak and got exposed. 

@titmfatied posted:

Mastering Aaron Rodgers’ famed cadence a tough Jets task: ‘Never had to study’ before

NY Post

By Brian Costello

Published Sep. 6, 2023, 7:11 p.m. ET

... Rodgers likes to say he is “intentional” in practice, meaning he thinks every snap in practice should serve a purpose. He is not one who goes through the motions.

“I just don’t like wasting reps. It’s kind of a weird psychosis,” Rodgers said. “If we’re out there doing something, let’s get something out of it. Instead of just going through the motions and you’re in a 20-play walk-through and every play is on one, why not have five plays on one, eight plays on double count, three plays on a quick count and two plays on a dummy count? Like, just test it. It shows you, can a guy play or not? Can a guy think and play? We need guys who can think quickly, listen, and then react at the same time, every single play.”

Rodgers said it is about training the mind as well as the body in practice in order to get ready for the games.

A coach in Green Bay told Rodgers and the Packers’ offense they should turn off their brains, but he does not see it that way.

“They can’t just turn their minds off,” Rodgers said. “There’s been times in the other offense and every coach has their clichés, but there was a cliché about, just turn your brain off. That’s just not how I play football. I don’t want my guys to play football like that. The smartest players are the best players, and I need my guys to be able to think in real time and react quickly and not turn their brain off. That’s just not the offense we play.”

Mastering Rodgers’ cadence is part of the process of being a smart player. continue




There's more past the click including Saleh asking MLF about it. Didn't want to post the whole article. Good read.

Man, wait til they learn about his hand signals.

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@vitaflo posted:

Man, wait til they learn about his hand signals.

On the Mark Sanchez show AR said that playing QB was about balance, rhythm, and timing.  He was taking QB coaches to task for making playing QB to complicated.  My question is, what category does cadence and hand signals fall under?  Or are those additions and is AR trying to make playing QB to complicated?  He can't have it both ways. 

That’s why he’s full of shit.  

He droned on the last couple of years about the importance of having good habits and putting in the extra work, but guess that didn’t apply to him.  More important to do podcasts and have people like McAfee stroke his ego.

Toward the end Brent did the same thing but it’s nauseating to hear Rodgers talk about this crap now that he’s with the Jets.   All in my ass.   Only on your terms I suppose.  

Man oh man we should have dumped his ass sooner.  At least he’s the Jets problem now.  

Someone needs to print up shirts that read “we’ll never forget you Erin!” Or “mission to make it to 65%”

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@titmfatied posted:


“They can’t just turn their minds off,” Rodgers said. “There’s been times in the other offense and every coach has their clichés, but there was a cliché about, just turn your brain off. That’s just not how I play football. I don’t want my guys to play football like that. The smartest players are the best players, and I need my guys to be able to think in real time and react quickly and not turn their brain off. That’s just not the offense we play.”

I want to come back to this because it kinda proves the Rodgers misses the point.  The coaches are wanting players to not think because they want them to just play and not think about what they need to do.  This would mean mastery of the position.  If every player did this, then every player would do the right thing without having to think about it and thus they could play faster and looser.

Rodgers instead wants people to "think outside the box" on plays and that's great and all, but it means everyone needs to think outside the *same* box.  This is why if you dropped a ball as a rookie AR would never come back to you.  You weren't thinking the same way he did.  It's why he played hero ball all the time always forced it to the guys he knew thought like he did.

Yes it's great if you have 11 guys who all think like you do and can read your mind every play.  But all you're doing is purposefully making the game more complicated than it needs to be and limiting yourself to a couple guys who you "trust" to think like you do, everyone else be damned.

I think this is a large reason he was so effective in the regular season but didn't do so well in the postseason.  In the postseason you need *everyone*.  You can't just keep chucking it that one guy you who can read your mind over and over.  The best QB's throw it to the open guy in rhythm, they're not out there tryin' to play mind games and prove how "smart" they are.

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“This is why if you dropped a ball as a rookie AR would never come back to you.  You weren't thinking the same way he did. ”

I don’t claim to be the brightest crayon in the box, but I don’t get it.  

Shit went south between him and Gute.  BOTH are to blame, focusing only on Rodgers because he’s no longer a Packer is being a homer.  

@vitaflo posted:

I want to come back to this because it kinda proves the Rodgers misses the point.  The coaches are wanting players to not think because they want them to just play and not think about what they need to do.  This would mean mastery of the position.  If every player did this, then every player would do the right thing without having to think about it and thus they could play faster and looser.

Rodgers instead wants people to "think outside the box" on plays and that's great and all, but it means everyone needs to think outside the *same* box.  This is why if you dropped a ball as a rookie AR would never come back to you.  You weren't thinking the same way he did.  It's why he played hero ball all the time always forced it to the guys he knew thought like he did.

Yes it's great if you have 11 guys who all think like you do and can read your mind every play.  But all you're doing is purposefully making the game more complicated than it needs to be and limiting yourself to a couple guys who you "trust" to think like you do, everyone else be damned.

I think this is a large reason he was so effective in the regular season but didn't do so well in the postseason.  In the postseason you need *everyone*.  You can't just keep chucking it that one guy you who can read your mind over and over.  The best QB's throw it to the open guy in rhythm, they're not out there tryin' to play mind games and prove how "smart" they are.

1.) Vince would roll over in his grave listening to AR's BS on this.

2.) Yeah, we saw in that last Niner playoff game AR shipping it to Davante even if he was triple covered while other guys were floating unbothered through their own zip code. Idiot.

Agree with Vitaflo.

Pretty sure Rodgers is talking about MLF with the “turn your brain off” reference. Remember the video?  ”All gas, no fuckin brake!”

The defense would be on its heels and gassed after Dillon just pounded the crap out of a few people or a big completion, but instead of keeping the momentum going, AR always had to run the next play clock to zero while he’d try to read the defense and play his mind games.

Not all the time, but sometimes you just gotta run the play that’s called and impose your will instead of fretting over what the other side is doing. Rodgers’ ego and brain wouldn’t let him do that, ever.

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@BrainDed posted:

I don’t claim to be the brightest crayon in the box, but I don’t get it.  

Shit went south between him and Gute.  BOTH are to blame, focusing only on Rodgers because he’s no longer a Packer is being a homer.  

Both are to blame. Just like any relationship it's a two-way street.

I believe there are more people involved than just Gutey and Rodgers though. At some point in the future we will find out. The truth always comes out. We will need to remember and piece information together (just like with Favre) over years of research.

What if some of the truth was Rodgers just grew unbelievably tired of living in Wisconsin? The weather post October made him miserable and not having much to do made him painfully bored to the point where he was drinking fingers of Scotch just to pass the days.

What if some of the truth was he couldn't wait to get out of Wisconsin every winter and get back to a lifestyle that makes him happier? Would we want to hear it?

What if some of the truth was both Rodgers and Gute know (and they do know) the free agents in the league they covet want nothing to do with living in Wisconsin and it makes it harder to win here and informs everyone's strategies and decisions. Would we truthfully want to hear it?

There could be a hundred different pieces of the truth that led to 12's departure. We all think we want it until we start hearing some truth that might make us uncomfortable. Then we'll twist a complicated set of circumstances into a simple personality clash between two people who've obviously let their egos get wildly out of control.  We'll choose up sides and growl at each other over all the rumors and innuendo like two dogs tugging at either end of a rope toy. No one getting anywhere closer to the truth, but It passes the day.

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Cold in Wisconsin?? So moving to New Jersey is definitely the answer to that question. 😁

I did notice when they showed Rodgers pulling up in "his" car (A dark green Aston Martin) to Jets facility like he's James effing Bond 😆

Definitely made me smile and laugh.

I was kind of hoping he'd hook up with Zach Wilson's mom 🤭

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