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I wish him well. He oversaw a period rivaled by few teams. Many great memories, many great players. A few missed/blown opportunities that taint the era, but that's what makes the highs so special. Ppl knocked Andy Reid his entire tenure in Philthy, but more than anything his message gradually became drowned out, by attrition and personalities and the highest of expectations. I think the situation in GB is very similar. A fresh start for both parties hopefully works out for everyone. Birds won a title and KC has a qb lighting it up...let's hope 1265 hunkers down and makes the best decisions possible.

ChilliJon posted:

Why didn’t this happen three <strike>weeks</str

BrainDed posted:
ChilliJon posted:

Why didn’t this happen three weeks ago?

Should have happened 3 years ago.  

Preaching to the choir.

Murphy should have cleaned house after last year. He didn’t. He should have fired Mike 3 weeks ago. He didn’t. Instead he let everything fester to the boiling point he let Rodgers / Mike become a problem. 

Murphy should be gone as well. GONE. Murphy is a problem that needs to be addressed. 

Henry posted:
chickenboy posted:

Someone has to be the interim. A worse decision than keeping M3 would be going in-house for his replacement.

Do you know of a lot of organizations that cleaned house from top to bottom in the middle of the season?  That would be impossible.  Philbin and Rodgers can cobble an offense together for now.  Philbin would make the most sense only because Angry Bald Man has enough on his plate and becoming HC would mean someone like Moss would be trying to crash the defense. With the upcoming house cleaning I hope Pettine gets some input on assistants he'd like to work with if he doesn't get replaced himself.

Not sure what you mean by this. My response was to someone who stated 'why Philbin?' Of course they wouldn't clean house entirely now and Philbin is the obvious choice for interim. I am only stating that if their choice for the next (full time) guy is Philbin, might as well stick with M3.

Note I am 100% sure new blood is coming in and if not, well I wouldn't know what to say to that...

Well, Rodgers got what he wanted. Now he has to produce. He’ll probably get the chance to call what he wants. After reading how MM could call a play three times and never see it run, I am a little jaded right now towards Rodgers. Whoever the next guy is has a difficult job reining in Rodgers and getting him on his side...

EC Pack posted:

Maybe Philbin will jack him if he doesn't follow the plan.  He knows he's not the next coach after all...

Please....a SB winnng coach couldn't and you think a interim/journeyman guy can.

After the debacle in Seattle in the 2014 playoffs MM should have been shown the door.  We’ve already established TT lasted 2-3 years past effectiveness. 

This team moves at a snails pace and it starts with Murphy.   Which is exactly the reason why he needs to be shown the door as well.  

bdplant posted:
BrainDed posted:

He don't look so good when Rodgers isn't playing at a super human level.   Was never a great coach, at his best he was average.  

He's more Jeff Fisher than Marty Shotenhiemer.  

Wrong. He may have worn out his welcome in Green Bay and it was obviously time to move on, but to call his head coaching career average is ridiculous. 

Sorry but he wasn't anything like Fisher or Shottenheimer and he was above average for most of his tenure.  I still say a lack of talent on the roster and an insane amount if injuries didn't help either.

I wasn't on board with this until today but it was just time.  Now it's time for the Packers to make the right decision.

Fandame posted:

Well, Rodgers got what he wanted. Now he has to produce. He’ll probably get the chance to call what he wants. After reading how MM could call a play three times and never see it run, I am a little jaded right now towards Rodgers. Whoever the next guy is has a difficult job reining in Rodgers and getting him on his side...

Did you read that entire article because you're being very selective.  Go read about McVince not being in game planning meetings only to drop in plays the day of the game.  Or how Coach Boyle and Coach Kizer had to relay everything to McVince to explain what the offense was trying to do on the field.

M3 is/was head and shoulders above Fisher. I think many shortchange Schottneheimer. He was a damn good coach in his day that with a couple if breaks could have a legacy that is viewed quite differently.

Pikes Peak posted:
EC Pack posted:

Maybe Philbin will jack him if he doesn't follow the plan.  He knows he's not the next coach after all...

Please....a SB winnng coach couldn't and you think a interim/journeyman guy can.

Maybe just because he isn't coaching for the job like MM was.

Kinda like a paid hit man?  Just spitballing.

I have a lot of respect for Coach McCarthy. But when the team stops playing for you, that’s the end. 

Gutekunst needs to hit a home run here. New, fresh, innovative. That’s what is needed...

Tschmack posted:

After the debacle in Seattle in the 2014 playoffs MM should have been shown the door.  

 

IMHO what happened in Seattle was not MMs fault.   Capers didn't get his D lined up to stop plays correctly. And a scrub TE didn't do as he was told and coached to do.  MM couldn't go out there and not touch that on side kick.  That was on the team.  MM had coached them to a great lead but the team couldn't finish. 

Pikes Peak posted:

''Twas Crosby that killed the beast....he makes the kick at the end of the Vikes game, puts a few between the posts vs Detroit and gets it to OT today and Mike would still be employed.

While that may be true, the offense was still a mess. Maybe a blessing in disguise. For both the team and M3. Maybe a new team and a QB that is young and aching to be coached is what he needs.

ammo posted:
Tschmack posted:

After the debacle in Seattle in the 2014 playoffs MM should have been shown the door.  

 

IMHO what happened in Seattle was not MMs fault.   Capers didn't get his D lined up to stop plays correctly. And a scrub TE didn't do as he was told and coached to do.  MM couldn't go out there and not touch that on side kick.  That was on the team.  MM had coached them to a great lead but the team couldn't finish. 

However, he is ultimately accountable for the results. M3 would have done himself a major favor not sticking with coordinators that were consistently not getting it done. The incredible breakdowns and the amount of these has to fall on coaching.

Pikes Peak posted:

''Twas Crosby that killed the beast....he makes the kick at the end of the Vikes game, puts a few between the posts vs Detroit and gets it to OT today and Mike would still be employed.

Possibly, but that would have been papering over the problem.

bandit posted:

Well y'all got what y'all wished for, I yet hear from you experts you the next head coach will be. 

Weird, because  there are many many posts on this site about who some people would suggest for a new head coach. Why, it's even in this very thread.

(oh, wait, you're just angry cuz Beav got fired. carry on)

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