Timmy! posted:Henry posted:Finally! A voice of reason and wisdom.
Like I stated in a previous thread.
THE ATTRACTION
I have heard reports saying that the other current NFL head coach opening—that of the Browns—is more attractive than the Green Bay opening. To that I say… please.
Exactly...the thing the Browns have going for them now is....Dorsey, Wolf & Highsmith. As well as a solid young QB. As Brandt astutely points out - all 3 from where?? That's right Green Bay.
The Packer front office tree is good for the league. 5 teams I can think of are good or have been good under their direction.
Chiefs / Raiders / Seattle. Obviously Green Bay & the Browns will be good in the future. All under the Packer FO tree.
R MaN posted:Silverstein: Packers nemesis Vic Fangio a must-interview for head-coaching job
Give Mike Pettine:
Akeim Hicks
Khalil Mack
Kyle Fuller
Leonard Floyd
Roquon Smith
Eddie Jackson
Ya, I'd be more then willing to bet Pettine's defense would be a top flight one as well. Fangio also had an ass load of talent in San Fran as well.
I'm far more impressed with the chicken salad Pettine's whipping up with the fraction of the talent Fangio has.
Silverstein needs to STFU. Doesn't have a clue.
Packers have beaten Fangio defense even WITH all those players. Guess Silverstein forgot about Week #1.
When Aaron Rodgers is right....HE is Fangios nemesis.
I don't think Fangio is HC material. DC certainly but not HC. Read Brandt's article. It's enlightening.
Top 5 in sacks with (40) - tied with the Bears
Top 2 in sack percentage, ahead of the vikings.
FML.....just our luck the Packers are dysfunctional for 75% of the season on offense. If this was a 2011 repeat, they wouldn't lose a game.
R MaN posted:Silverstein: Packers nemesis Vic Fangio a must-interview for head-coaching job
Ouch, that hurt my eyes as well as much as it defies reason.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Chongo posted:Not really DeFilippo's fault Spielnuts got a woody for Kirk Frerotte.
That said, keep that WOP 1,000 miles from 1265.
Hey!! Kiel & I resemble that remark.
Same here.
Bruce Arians is campaigning to become the Browns' coach. He's told more than one news outlet he'd come back to coach in Cleveland only and no other job, likes their young talent, fans are the best, he loved being an OC there, yada, yada. While I don't think the triplets would do it, you never know what Haslem might force on them...
I'm pretty sure Dorsey & gang have 99.9% of the say in the HC.
If Haslem tried to force anything on Dorsey - I don't think he'd appreciate that.
I'll bet if MM wants that job, he'll get it but of course "Rooney rule" must follow process.
A guy they terminated in December. Give him an interview?!?! To satisfy Rooney Rule....
😁😆 that's priceless but I don't think the rule was intended to be interpreted this way.
Teams have been skirting this "rule" for years. Giving a single ethnicity a courtesy/mandatory interview. What a joke.
If a person is qualified & the team is interested, then that person should be given an interview regardless of race, color, age, sexual orientation or blood type. For **** sakes it's almost 2019 people.
Numerous black HC's in the league. A black HC has won a Super Bowl. We have black GMs in front offices. Do we really still need the Rooney Rule?!?!
You were talking about a Browns hire right? I meant Moss for Cleveland's "Rooney Rule" interview.
While it won't happen, Tomlin could also be out of a job as many are calling for his firing. Pitt last won the Superb Owl in 2009, so one year behind MM. And of course, now that MM is on the market, fans want the local boy back. And when you look at it, the time might be right. Ben is nearing the end, so a young QB has to be developed. Tomlin has been in Pitt since 2007. The squabble with Bell hasn't done Tomlin (or Bell) any favors (although it's the front office). Who's to say that Tomlin's message hasn't gotten old there? If MM went to Pitt, the NFL would have a heyday.
RochNyFan posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:Chongo posted:Not really DeFilippo's fault Spielnuts got a woody for Kirk Frerotte.
That said, keep that WOP 1,000 miles from 1265.
Hey!! Kiel & I resemble that remark.
Same here.
Wow, I also got a woody for Kirk Frerotte. Cool clique!
Brainwashed Boris posted:I'm pretty sure Dorsey & gang have 99.9% of the say in the HC.
If Haslem tried to force anything on Dorsey - I don't think he'd appreciate that.
I'll bet if MM wants that job, he'll get it but of course "Rooney rule" must follow process.
Maybe or maybe not. Haslam (the Clowns owner) is known as a total buffoon and meddles constantly with the football guys. He is the same guy that pushed the Clowns front office to draft Manziel in the first round because a homeless man told him/convinced him to do it.
https://www.cbssports.com/g00/....ua=1&i10c.dv=21
Haslam would interfere in a second, Dorsey might quit, but Haslam is dumb enough to interfere. He's run the U of Tennessee football program into the ground for the last decade dictating AD's and coaching hires. Don't think for a second that organization is stable just because of Dorsey and Mayfield.
I'd love to have Tomlin in GB. He's a winner. Tomlin and Pettine would field a killer defense. Tomlin's problem is the same one that people complained about MM, he relies too heavily on his franchise QB and has struggled to find the right staff (specifically OC).
Still think we should offer both 1st's for Belichick.
On MM to Pittsburgh (or Cleveland or anywhere else)...
But, isn't he now too deficient with offensive scheme?
ammo posted:You were talking about a Browns hire right? I meant Moss for Cleveland's "Rooney Rule" interview.
No. I thought you meant interview Moss for the Packer job to satisfy the Rooney Rule. 😆
Wouldn't that be a fine FU to the NFL
Grave Digger posted:Still think we should offer both 1st's for Belichick.
I offer them a 3rd for Belichick. He has trouble the last :07 of the game. 😁
Brainwashed Boris posted:Chongo posted:Not really DeFilippo's fault Spielnuts got a woody for Kirk Frerotte.
That said, keep that WOP 1,000 miles from 1265.
Hey!! Kiel & I resemble that remark.
1/4 of me does! Va fangoul!
Waiting for my 23 and Me results...
packerboi posted:The Heckler posted:If Riley makes the NFL jump he is going to have to change his philosphy and at least make some sort of commitment to defense. HIs defenses at OU have been atrocious.
Me personally I would pass on any Big 12 coaches you have to play some defense to win the NFL.
IMO, I don't think the Packers have the luxury to go through the growing pains of a college coach as he transitions to the NFL. Nearly every one that has no NFL experience, it takes a couple years for them to adjust, etc. And many wash out and just can't make the jump to the big leagues.
With a 35 year old Rodgers, they need to win and win now. That almost certainly means making a hire with NFL experience. Whether it's a Matt LaFleur or a CarMichaeal JR or ________, the team needs to hit the ground running.
I completely agree and it is just humble opinion but I would stay away from college coaches for the reasons you mentioned. The Packers just don't have the luxury of waiting for a guy to grow in to an NFL coach that is why I think you need to get someone with NFL experience. Not a retread but someone who knows the NFL game.
Riley and others are great college coaches and I think some are just meant to be just that a college coach.
Hungry5 posted:Waiting for my 23 and Me results...
If ya don't have any Italian in you, would ya like some?
P.S. I use that line on my wife all the time.
The Heckler posted:Riley and others are great college coaches and I think some are just meant to be just that a college coach.
I wouldn't mind seeing a HC with NFL experience & add a guy like Riley as OC.
Adopted Grandma of my former in-laws who are all Sicilian. "I'm Sicilian by injection".
Agreed about Riley. Just not nearly enough experience even at the college level.
If I had to guess about Brandt's hunch it would seem pretty obvious that Murphy would go after Northwestern jughead.
Ah, pretty sure you're not my type Boris.
Between Fitzgerald and Philbin, I'd take Philbin.
If he gets the offense to play well enough for a W on Sunday, his chances go up, A LOT.
Need AngryBaldMan to dial up some challenges for Trubisky.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Hungry5 posted:Waiting for my 23 and Me results...
If ya don't have any Italian in you, would ya like some?
P.S. I use that line on my wife all the time.
The Heckler posted:Riley and others are great college coaches and I think some are just meant to be just that a college coach.I wouldn't mind seeing a HC with NFL experience & add a guy like Riley as OC.
That is funny I used that line on my wife last night exept I use German instead of italian. Like clockwork all I got was the eye roll.
Anyhow, I would be very good with Riley as an OC but I can't see him stepping down as a HC of OU to go be a coordinator in the NFL. But then again if you are coach in the NFL you don't have the recruiting BS and dealing with boosters you have in college.
Henry posted:Agreed about Riley. Just not nearly enough experience even at the college level.
If I had to guess about Brandt's hunch it would seem pretty obvious that Murphy would go after Northwestern jughead.
I think all this Riley talk was planeted by his agent to get him more money. He will make $3.8 million next year, criminally underpaid for a coach that has 2 Heisman winners, 2 B12 championships, and 2 playoff appearances...in 2 years. He’s likely looking for a big jump in salary.
The Heckler posted:That is funny I used that line on my wife last night exept I use German instead of italian. Like clockwork all I got was the eye roll.
Was that before or after you finished?
Hungry5 posted:The Heckler posted:That is funny I used that line on my wife last night exept I use German instead of italian. Like clockwork all I got was the eye roll.
Was that before or after you finished?
LMAO both before and after.
Don't complain. At least there was a before and after.
Hungry5 posted:Between Fitzgerald and Philbin literally anyone else on earth, I'd take Philbin literally anyone else on earth
sigh
I don't see Fitzgerald leaving NU. He is from Chicago area, played at NU, I think he would have left already for a more prestigious program if that is what he wanted. NU just dumped a ton of money into their facilities and he is set for life at NU.
OTOH, the conspiracy theories do seem to make sense. Murphy really shouldn't be hiring the new HC, but he must have a reason for keeping that power (obviously ego is probably one of them)
Isn’t the reality that the Packers cannot bring in a new coach with a completely different program? As long as Rodgers is in Green Bay, an experienced offensive mind is the best way to get the most out of the massive financial investment they have in Rodgers?
Philbin... it’s going to be Philbin after the Packers win out but fall short when the Bears sit their starters in the Viking game...
Music City posted:Isn’t the reality that the Packers cannot bring in a new coach with a completely different program? As long as Rodgers is in Green Bay, an experienced offensive mind is the best way to get the most out of the massive financial investment they have in Rodgers?
Philbin... it’s going to be Philbin after the Packers win out but fall short when the Bears sit their starters in the Viking game...
Even with starters sitting, don't believe the Vikes can beat the Bears at this point.
Brainwashed Boris posted:If a person is qualified & the team is interested, then that person should be given an interview regardless of race, color, age, sexual orientation or blood type. For **** sakes it's almost 2019 people.
Numerous black HC's in the league. A black HC has won a Super Bowl. We have black GMs in front offices. Do we really still need the Rooney Rule?!?!
Don’t look now, Boris... you’re making a conservative argument... 
Pat Fitzgerald a .500 coach in the Big Ten. That would be great. Listening to his press conferences the last 12 years, really makes you feel happy he doesn't coach the Badgers.
Fitzgerald isn't going anywhere I think he is happy right where he is.
Maybe its just me but I think the Packers can do better than hiring a .500 coach in the Big Ten.
GBFanForLife posted:Pat Fitzgerald a .500 coach in the Big Ten. That would be great. Listening to his press conferences the last 12 years, really makes you feel happy he doesn't coach the Badgers.
Huh? A .500 record at Northwestern is amazing. I would drop PC in a hot minute for PF.
Now does CB want PF as the Pack's next coach. Don't think so…