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FinnLander posted:

Sorta like the old Draft Muncher.

Mock Draft Database

This is how big football is: We are 2 months removed from the Super Bowl, 5 months away from opening weekend, and these people are doing meta-analyses on what might happen in the draft.   

Lying awake thinking about it at night, numbers crunching by day. Just completely and totally obsessed. 

I think the shit is awesome. You just, you gotta love it. 

The time that has passed from when this thread was created until today has changed much of the thinking as to whom we draft in the first round, too. I always wanted to get OL help at #12 as that looked to be our biggest area of need. Then, I shifted to Edge Rusher and TE. Then to Edge Rusher and OL help. Then back to Edge Rusher and TE. Now, and after FA, I want BPA at #12 and O Line at #30. Whether that BPA is Ed Oliver, Devin White, Devin Bush, TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant, Jawaan Taylor, Brian Burns, Jonah Williams, Cody Ford or Dalton Risner almost does not matter as the Packers will get someone of real value at the #12 pick and again, at the #30 pick. 

Boris posted:

Really wish the Packers were drafting third overall this year. 

They definitely needed to beat the Jets & Falcons. Ooooh boy....

  Gonna be some nice players taken between 3 and 13. 

Leadership !!!! 

Two names I keep seeing pop up on twitter as possible connections to GB at 12: Georgia CB DeAndre Baker and Washington St. OT Andre Dillard. Dillard looks like he's going to be an ELITE pass blocker, lighting fast get off and huge frame to add mass. Still progressing as a run blocker dude to strength, ZBS negates some of that though.

Baker improved his 40 time at his pro day to 4.46 and looks like he's going to be a lock down cover guy in the NFL. Very reminiscent of Jaire except not quite as fast. Both guys seem to be CBs you could put on an island and bring pressure with front 7, something I think Pettine prefers. 

One guy I really like who seems to be shooting up boards is Maryland S Darnell Savage. I've seen talk that Seattle and Philly are interested and he may not even make it to 30. 

I haven't heard of the UGA CB Baker but it wouldn't surprise me if they went CB in round 1.  You can never have enough of them in today's NFL.

I keep hearing Savage is a hot prospect for many teams.  I watch a ton of Big Ten football and for the life of me I don't remember hearing his name much.

 

Also starting to see ALA ILB Wilson's name popping up more in the first round, one mock sending him to GB at #30.  Draft Analyst has him as the #2 ILB ahead of D. Bush.  "Still raw but incredible potential."

michiganjoe posted:

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/andrew-beck

What you see is what you get with Beck, a solid run blocker who can help a team right away for 10 snaps a game, but will probably never grow into more than that, and will likely still be limited in what he can contribute. His profile projects to being an average underneath receiver at best, but given that almost every tight end can provide that, he'll have to prove irreplaceable as a blocker, which will start with improving his technique and success rate in pass protection. Beck is draftable, but I wouldn't expect him to come off the board before the final rounds of the draft.

Round Grade: 7th-UDFA

PFF's latest mock has the following players:

12: Notre Dame DL Jerry Tillery

30: UMass WR Andy Isabella

44: Virginia DB Juan Thornhill

75: Minnesota LB Blake Cashman

That's not a terrible draft IMO, it would be very unexpected. Tillery is reminiscent of Chiefs DE Chris Jones, has a kind of Kenny Clark vibe in terms of being a physical specimen that is still pretty raw. Isabella is not who I would have imagined, but with that 4.31 speed he could be a serious weapon out of the Slot. Thornhill is a guy I see people talking a lot about, had a really nice combine. Same for Cashman. 

michiganjoe posted:

It is believed that on his visit to Minnesota he was picked up by this driver:

 

Grave Digger posted:
Pakrz posted:

The only player I like out of those 4, give the slot they are projected to be taken, is Cashman at 75.  No f'ing way on Tillery at 12.

What's wrong with Tillery?

Weaknesses
  • Needs more consistent reaction time off the snap
  • Loses a measure of power by allowing access into his frame
  • Takes some bad losses at point of attack when pad level and technique go south
  • Ends up on the ground more than teams might like
  • Body control fluctuates according to footwork and base width
  • Legs become heavy and lumbering the further away he gets from snap point
  • Looks like he's playing in sand when forced to redirect suddenly against cutting ball carriers
  • Raw with his hands and hasn't learned to properly weaponize them in his rush attack
  • Would benefit from more well-rounded rush attack rather than relying on size and force

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/...06-c437-604f05433c81

 Tillery is a projection-based prospect with first-class traits and dominant potential, but he's still searching for more consistency from game to game. While his frame is suited for a role as an end in a classic 3-4 scheme, he has plenty of tape showing he shouldn't be scheme dependent on the next level. Scouts would like to see more dominant tape considering his size and power, but if he takes coaching and learns to unleash his hands, he could become an unruly interior force and good three-down starter.

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Grave Digger posted:

PFF's latest mock has the following players:

12: Notre Dame DL Jerry Tillery

30: UMass WR Andy Isabella

44: Virginia DB Juan Thornhill

75: Minnesota LB Blake Cashman

That's not a terrible draft IMO, it would be very unexpected. Tillery is reminiscent of Chiefs DE Chris Jones, has a kind of Kenny Clark vibe in terms of being a physical specimen that is still pretty raw. Isabella is not who I would have imagined, but with that 4.31 speed he could be a serious weapon out of the Slot. Thornhill is a guy I see people talking a lot about, had a really nice combine. Same for Cashman. 

I wouldn't be pleased if things shook out like this.  I'm a big ND fan and follow them pretty closely and there have always been concerns about Tillery's drive.  And, I think Isabella will be there at 44.

Grave Digger posted:
Pakrz posted:

The only player I like out of those 4, give the slot they are projected to be taken, is Cashman at 75.  No f'ing way on Tillery at 12.

What's wrong with Tillery?

I think 12 is way too high for him.  30 is better... R2 is best.

YATittle posted:
Grave Digger posted:
Pakrz posted:

The only player I like out of those 4, give the slot they are projected to be taken, is Cashman at 75.  No f'ing way on Tillery at 12.

What's wrong with Tillery?

Weaknesses
  • Needs more consistent reaction time off the snap
  • Loses a measure of power by allowing access into his frame
  • Takes some bad losses at point of attack when pad level and technique go south
  • Ends up on the ground more than teams might like
  • Body control fluctuates according to footwork and base width
  • Legs become heavy and lumbering the further away he gets from snap point
  • Looks like he's playing in sand when forced to redirect suddenly against cutting ball carriers
  • Raw with his hands and hasn't learned to properly weaponize them in his rush attack
  • Would benefit from more well-rounded rush attack rather than relying on size and force

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/...06-c437-604f05433c81

 Tillery is a projection-based prospect with first-class traits and dominant potential, but he's still searching for more consistency from game to game. While his frame is suited for a role as an end in a classic 3-4 scheme, he has plenty of tape showing he shouldn't be scheme dependent on the next level. Scouts would like to see more dominant tape considering his size and power, but if he takes coaching and learns to unleash his hands, he could become an unruly interior force and good three-down starter.

If all those weaknesses are accurate, he sounds like a prototypical Packer defensive lineman. 

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