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Pakrz posted:

I didn't realize Sternberger was a R2 guy... I love his game and think he may end up being one of the best in this class. 

Metcalf reminds me a lot of Gary.  The physical talent is crazy but the production wasn't what you'd like to see.  But man... Rodgers would turn him into a superstar with that speed and size. 

Like he did with Janis? Not convinced. Don’t like DK Metcalf.

Hungry5 posted:

Lottsa good O talent available in R2.

JAWAAN TAYLOR, OT
CODY FORD, G
DREW LOCK, QB
D.K. METCALF, WR
AJ BROWN, WR
GREG LITTLE, OT
DALTON RISNER, G
IRV SMITH, TE
HAKEEM BUTLER, WR
DEEBO SAMUEL, WR
JACE STERNBERGER, TE
JJ ARCEGA-WHITESIDE, WR

I saw Arcega-Whiteside being taken by the Pack in a R2 projection, more in place of a TE pick. Interesting prospect. Kind of reminds me of Jordy.

Jeremiah calls Arcega-Whiteside (6'2/223) a "huge asset on third down and in the red zone" and projects him as to have an "immediate impact." If you've seen him play, you know Arcega-Whiteside dominates the 50/50 balls using a unique basketball box-out technique, but some are concerned with his separation skills. With that said, Arcega-Whiteside surprised during athletic testing when he ran a 4.49 40-yard dash. It appears that there's some divide on where Arcega-Whiteside ranks in this deep wide receiver class, but he will likely be a Day 2 selection come this weekend. (Daniel Jermiah, nfl.com)

Just like Gary though, I'm not convinced Ole Miss fully realized his talent and utilized him accordingly. He could be Julio Jones IF he has the right coaching to teach him everything that Ole Miss neglected and the mental make up to hone his craft. That's the difference between good receivers and great ones, it's the attention to detail. One overlooked detail is that his father is former Bears OL Terrance Metcalf and his uncle is former Pro Bowl returner Eric Metcalf. He has some NFL bloodlines, he's not just a physical freak that came out of nowhere. He doesn't sound like a doofus in interviews, so there's a chance he could realize his talent. 

Henry posted:
Herschel posted:

With both 4ths gone, there's now no help coming before the back half of day three at multiple positions. They have no depth at multiple spots, which is concerning because injuries happen. The defensive backfield is paper thin, for example. 

I feel better about the oline with Madison and Turner in the fold but there better be a 2nd or 3rd round oline pick. 

I hear you, but that means no TE or D-back or WR, etc. until round 5 and how far would they want to trade back in any of these rounds?

Packy posted:

I like AJ Brown if he’s still around when we pick.

I was just coming here to post that. The fact Gutey moved up 9 spots in round 1 & STILL has both 2nd & 3rd rounders is remarkable. 

Rosen to Dolphins finalized for #48?

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FinnLander posted:

The hot takes from last night - fantastic.  I wish I could send a few of you guys some of my blood pressure pills & a valium (though I don't have those on hand).

Opioids and booze for me please!

ESPN Round 2 mock...

33. Arizona Cardinals

Greedy Williams, CB, LSU | Highlights

Free-agent signing Robert Alford was released by Atlanta after a disappointing season. Williams is a good fit for defensive coordinator Vance Joseph's press scheme and a good value here.

 


 

34. Indianapolis Colts (from NYJ)

Chase Winovich, DE, Michigan | Highlights

The Colts signed Justin Houston, but that shouldn't stop them from continuing to upgrade a pass rush that tied for 19th in the NFL with 38 sacks last year. Winovich is a twitchy pass-rusher with an array of pass-rush moves.


35. Oakland Raiders

Byron Murphy, CB, Washington | Highlights

Corner is a top-three need for the Raiders, and Murphy is too good a value to pass up at this point in the draft.


36. San Francisco 49ers

Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina | Highlights

San Francisco was the only team that didn't have a wide receiver with 500 or more receiving yards in 2018, and Samuel is the best receiver on the board.


37. Seattle Seahawks (from NYG)

Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple | Highlights

Shaquill Griffin took over Richard Sherman's left corner spot and struggled at times last year. Ya-Sin is a perfect fit for Seattle's scheme, and he's capable of competing for a starting role as a rookie.


38. Jacksonville Jaguars

Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma | Highlights

The Jaguars made right tackle Jermey Parnell a cap casualty, and Ford is a nasty run-blocker who projects as a rookie starter.


39. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware | Highlights

Ideally, one of the three corners that has come off the board in this mock falls to the Buccaneers, but Adderley is a good value here instead. A Tampa Bay defense that ranked 26th in passing yards allowed per game started five different players at safety last year.


40. Buffalo Bills

Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama | Highlights

The Bills ranked 31st in passing yards per game last year and they released Charles Clay. Adding Smith gives young quarterback Josh Allen a playmaker over the middle.


41. Denver Broncos

Drew Lock, QB, Missouri | Highlights

There was some speculation that the Broncos would take Lock in the first round. They get him in the second round in this scenario, and he could push 34-year-old Joe Flacco for the starting job sooner rather than later.


42. Cincinnati Bengals

A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss | Highlights

John Ross hasn't lived up to expectations, and Brown has the skill set to push him for the No. 3 role.


43. Detroit Lions

Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt | Highlights

Detroit has a No. 1 corner in Darius Slay, but it's unclear who will start opposite him.


44. Green Bay Packers

Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida | Highlights

Thirty-year-old right tackle Bryan Bulaga has played in all 16 games of a season just twice in his eight-year career. Taylor is the No. 10 overall player on our board, making him a steal if he slides this far.


45. Los Angeles Rams (from ATL)

Erik McCoy, C, Texas A&M | Highlights

The Rams didn't pick up John Sullivan's option, and McCoy is a good value at this point in the draft.


46. Indianapolis Colts (from WSH)

JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford | Highlights

The Colts signed Devin Funchess this offseason, but it's a one-year deal and they need depth. Arcega-Whiteside has the potential to develop into an excellent complement to T.Y. Hilton, and he has outstanding football character.


47. Carolina Panthers

DK Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss | Highlights

Adding Metcalf gives the Panthers a big deep threat who makes it tough to stack the box in an effort to slow running back Christian McCaffrey, and helps create space for receiver DJ Moore.


48. Miami Dolphins

Ryan Finley, QB, NC State | Highlights

The Dolphins traded Ryan Tannehill to the Titans, and 36-year-old free agent Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't the long-term answer.


49. Cleveland Browns

Justin Layne, CB, Michigan St. | Highlights

Denzel Ward is a shutdown corner when he's healthy, but he suffered two concussions at the end of season. Terrance Mitchell missed eight games with a broken wrist and T.J. Carrie is at his best lining up over the slot. Layne would be a big help.


50. Minnesota Vikings

Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State | Highlights

Dalvin Cook fantasy owners will likely hate this pick, but the Vikings need to add depth behind him. Sanders is a good value at this point.


51. Tennessee Titans

Connor McGovern, G, Penn State | Highlights

The Titans could take a receiver here, but they need a player who can compete for the starting right guard spot, and McGovern fits the bill. He's also versatile enough to play center.


52. Denver Broncos (from PIT)

Taylor Rapp, S, Washington | Highlights

Justin Simmons enters a contract year and Darian Stewart was a cap casualty. Rapp has dropped this far because he didn't run well, but his instincts, athletic ability and ball skills make him a good fit for Denver's new scheme.


53. Philadelphia Eagles (from BAL)

Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame | Highlights

No Philadelphia corner started more than nine games last year, and the Eagles finished the season ranked 30th in passing yards allowed per game.


54. Houston Texans (from SEA)

Dalton Risner, OT, Kansas State | Highlights

Right tackle Seantrel Henderson missed the final 15 games last year with a broken ankle and hasn't played in all 16 games of a season since his rookie season of 2014. The Texans got a left tackle in the first round, and they get a right tackle in the second in this scenario.


55. Houston Texans

Lonnie Johnson Jr., CB, Kentucky | Highlights

The Texans finished 2018 ranked 28th in passing yards allowed per game. Houston signed Bradley Roby to just a one-year deal and Johnathan Joseph just turned 35.


56. New England Patriots (from CHI)

Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech | Highlights

The Patriots signed Michael Bennett, but Trey Flowers and Adrian Clayborndeparted via free agency. Ferguson is the best available defensive end.


57. Philadelphia Eagles

Trayveon Williams, RB, Texas A&M | Highlights

Jay Ajayi and Darren Sproles remain unsigned. The Eagles traded for Jordan Howard, but he's in a contract year and Williams would be an excellent complement.


58. Dallas Cowboys

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S, Florida | Highlights

Gardner-Johnson is a versatile defensive back capable of pushing for the nickelback role as a rookie and developing into a starting safety in time.


59. Indianapolis Colts

Dre'Mont Jones, DT, Ohio State | Highlights

The Colts should be looking to add depth behind Margus Hunt and Denico Autry. Jones is an ascending talent who had his best season in 2018.


60. Los Angeles Chargers

Max Scharping, OT, Northern Illinois | Highlights

The Chargers need a right tackle to push Sam Tevi for the starting job, and Scharping fits the bill.


61. Kansas City Chiefs

Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State | Highlights

Campbell is an excellent value at this point. Andy Reid will find creative ways to make the most of his considerable talent and skill set.


62. New Orleans Saints

Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi St. | Highlights

 

Max Unger retired, and Jenkins projects as plug-and-play starter at center.


63. Kansas City Chiefs (from LAR)

Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia | Highlights

Safety Eric Berry was a cap casualty, fellow safety Eric Murray was traded and corner Steve Nelson signed with Pittsburgh. The Chiefs did bring in Bashaud Breeland, but on just a one-year deal. Thornhill is a versatile defensive back who could play corner or safety depending upon need.


64. New England Patriots

Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M | Highlights

Rob Gronkowski retired, and Dwayne Allen signed with Miami. Free-agent signing Austin Seferian-Jenkins has yet to play in all 16 games of a season, so Sternberger could have a decent role right away.

If I'm Gutey, I'm likely trading down from 44 to maybe 49 or 50 and I get back one of my 4ths. There is plenty of talent in the 2nd round that there isn't a need for the Packers to stay at 44. 

Lots of options and you get one of your picks back:





bvan posted:
FinnLander posted:

The hot takes from last night - fantastic.  I wish I could send a few of you guys some of my blood pressure pills & a valium (though I don't have those on hand).

Opioids and booze for me please!

Model glue and Listerine for me please!

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