@Blair Kiel posted:You’ve now named every white receiver in NFL history other than Lance Alworth.
Never met a brother named Bambi.
@Blair Kiel posted:You’ve now named every white receiver in NFL history other than Lance Alworth.
Run Bambi, run?
@Tschmack posted:I’m trying to think about the guys that got away from GB and actually played as well if not better and the names that immediately come to mind are Micah Hyde and Casey Hayward.
MP2 hit on a key point that those a bit older didn’t do well in other places. Also thinking guys like Sitton and Bulaga.
Packers players that got big third contract (and beyond) from Green Bay (at the time of the contract). There are probably more but these are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Reggie White
Aaron Rodgers
Favre. 10 years, 100 million in 2001.
Charles Woodson. In 2006, he signed his second contract with GB. In 2010, he signed a 5 year, 55 million extension. He played 2 years of the 5 before they released him.
Driver. Before 2010. 3 years, 17 million. One good year and then he was washed up.
Bakh. 4 years, 92 million. Tore his ACL before the extension kicked in.
Clifton. Before 2010. 3 years, 20 million. Made it through 2010 as the starting LT, then played only 6 more games due to injuries.
3 out of 7 of these worked out. Those 3 players are among the top 25-50 players in NFL history. Woodson is on that level also, but even his 3rd contract was a poor financial decision. Basically, you almost never get value out of giving a big money third contract to anyone other than a franchise QB (and freaks of nature like Reggie White).
Adams is a great player and a borderline HOFer, but he's not a physical freak of nature like Reggie. Reggie could have lost a large portion of his physical advantage and still been a great player. You can't hit QBs like you used to and they can play a long time with the semi-equivalent of the red jerseys on.
@antiworst posted:And now I read where Adams bought a house right next door to Carr. Next door neighbors...how sweet. Why stop there, just move in with Carr and share a pillow.
FUCK DAVANTE ADAMS!!! There, I said it. These days I don't root for people, I root for whoever is wearing the jersey that I root for.
Back in the day the players stayed with your team and you'd know they'd be there next year. Now players move all over and the guy you hated last year is the guy you're rooting for this year because he's wearing our jersey.
So I don't wish Adams good luck going forward, I hope he's the biggest bust in NFL history. Fuck him. He didn't want to play here...see ya!!! It was his choice, not anyone else's.
You’re being a bit vague.
@Harry Manback posted:Could we have done something about that like going after Robinson? I don’t know of we had enough time or if he even wanted to play here.
Finally someone making sense about Robinson. Does anybody know for a fact that the Packers didn't talk to Robinson? He may well of thought, " Lets see maybe 1 or 2 years with Rodgers or 3 sure years with Pads Statsford. Nov and Dec and home playoff games in Green Bay or L A? Yah, I'm taking L A!!!!!!!!!"
Stafford is in the last year of his deal, is he not? Given the QB market if he hits FA some other team may throw big money at him.
As for Robinson, since when did he become an elite receiver?
Perspective always helps..
Two premium picks, unloaded $20M in cap space for a 29-year-old receiver and reunited him with his best friend and college quarterback. The shock factor was real, but it’s hard to truly be upset; the Packers did what they had to do. https://t.co/OvxS4JYFZe
— zachary jacobson (@itszacharyj) March 18, 2022
Whatever happened to the “and a player” talk that was going on when this was first announced?
I half assumed it was a mildly bad contract coming back
I had that perspective from the jump. Not sure why so many are losing their mind or writing this team off.
the real question is, is this thread necessary?
Me fuck up. it was Jim Zorn as the failed head coach. 
I’m not ringing my hands because I can’t do anything about it, but the fact remains we’re not a better team with him gone. And we have what, probably two years realistically with AR?
@Harry Manback posted:I’m not ringing my hands because I can’t do anything about it, but the fact remains we’re not a better team with him gone. And we have what, probably two years realistically with AR?
Rams adding Allen Robinson, Chiefs adding Juju, Bucs adding Russell Gage at WR and the Pack loses Davante Adams from what was not exactly a stellar group of WRs but nothing to see here, move along.
This is one of those deals that had to happen and yet I was shocked when it did.
You can't have your rodgers and adams too
I am not in love with Gute and the FO and it sounds like they were trying to screw this up and completely torpedo the future...but thank you Davante for helping them do the right thing. This is a great move...maybe they'll allow Rodgers to make the picks at 22 and 53....maybe Gute will have names on a dart board, no matter it still is a win.
I am trying to remember a third contract receiver in league history that ever played to the salary expectation....even Lofton, who remained great in his 30s made only one pro bowl in his last 6 years compared to 7 times prior.
Bottom line now, is how do we move forward? I don’t care if the Packers defense is the second coming of the ‘85 Bears, we still have to score points. Speaking as Captain Obvious, that probably means spending one of our #1 picks on a receiver at the very least, see if we can get Jarvis Landry as a FA. We’re in really poor shape with TE’s too. Who knows if Bobby comes back as the same player.
@antiworst posted:... FUCK DAVANTE ADAMS!!! There, I said it. These days I don't root for people, I root for whoever is wearing the jersey that I root for....
So I don't wish Adams good luck going forward, I hope he's the biggest bust in NFL history. Fuck him. He didn't want to play here...see ya!!! It was his choice, not anyone else's.
I was going to reply to this, but then I saw your avatar again.
No amount of rebuttal is going to overcome that!
@Goalline posted:You forgot 3rd contract hall of famer, Jarrett Bush.
Sorry. I forgot about that 3 year/5 million contract (1.7 million a year).
@Goalline posted:Never met a brother named Bambi.
Maybe no Bambi, but there was a Lamb that was a brother.
@Harry Manback posted:I’m not ringing my hands because I can’t do anything about it, but the fact remains we’re not a better team with him gone. And we have what, probably two years realistically with AR?
If only there was more time to construct the roster before the start of the 2022 season. I wish the NFL allowed trades to happen after today. Or maybe they could allow one team to sign another team's "after June 1". Then the Packers would have a way to improve the WR corp. Damn.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Would this be the 4th former Packer WR to wear the silver and black?
Walker, Jones and Nelson lit it up
James Lofton
i thought lofton went to buffalo, but you're right, 2 years in oak, then went to buffalo
@H5 posted:Maybe... woulda, shoulda, coulda... ifs and buts... probably...
Fact remains he didn't want to play in GB anymore and said so with his "won't play on the tag" comment. Once he said that, he was gone. The Packers offered more money, Adams took less. GB didn't offer more money "after" Adams made his decision.
A 1st and a 2nd is great return for someone who doesn't want to play for your team.
The Packer FO knew that Adams was coming to the end of his second contract,
One of two things was going to happen. Either he was staying, or he was leaving.
Pretty simple, right?
Any FO worth their salt is going to have a pretty clear idea what the eventual outcome is going to be with Adams, as they would (or rather, should) keep a constant dialogue with him. It’s not all that hard to take a player’s temperature, so to speak, and see how happy they are.
Unless they were absolutely certain he was staying, the prudent thing to do would have been to draft another future impact receiver as a hedge. Aaron Rodgers had already needed another top weapon in the passing game. He won a Super Bowl, and shredded the NFL’s #1 scoring defense in the process, in part because he was coming into his own as a historically great passer, and in part because he was surrounded by a pretty impressive group of pass catchers. When Donald Driver went down, in addition to still having a Pro Bowler in Greg Jennings, and a good 2/3 in James Jones, they had a future superstar in Jordy Nelson waiting in the wings (and yes, he was a superstar). #87 had his coming out party in the Super Bowl. Outside of a few drops, he just shredded the Steeler secondary.
The Packer FO, in addition to not hedging Adams’ future with the team by drafting his possible successor, did nothing to enhance the overall weapons of the passing game. NOTHING. All those receivers I listed last night? Let’s not forget that another third was spent on Jace Sternberger, and he, too, was a bust.
So, here we are now giving $150 mil to Aaron Rodgers, and there’s not a single pass catcher on this roster that scares anyone. Not a single one.
While we lament that Tom Brady is coming back, last year, after losing Chris Godwin to injury, and Antonio Brown to crazy, they still had Mike Evans and Rob Gronkowski.
So my question: does anybody here really believe Adams ever truly considered staying?
The FO already botched the whole Aaron Rodgers situation in the last offseason. It doesn’t seem like a stretch that they screwed the pooch in handling the negotiations with Adams.
But what’s more alarming, to me, is that the FO seems to have been caught with their pants down, once again.
We can spin this all we want, celebrating the cap room, and the #1 and 2.
But the truth is that, after going 13-3 in not one, not two, but three straight years, and not getting to a single Super Bowl (the first time in NFL history a team has won 13 games in three straight seasons without getting to the big game), we’re again looking “down the road”, instead of 2022 as a likely Super Bowl run.
You don’t jump out of an airplane without a backup chute. This front office did just that.
The time to parlay picks and move up for a future top flight wide receiver is not now. It was two years ago.
Aaron Rodgers, who we just extended for the amount of a small country’s GDP, is going to be a few months shy of his 39th birthday when the 2022 NFL season starts. And now, we’re looking to 2023 when whatever receivers we draft in a few weeks “might” be ready to step into a major role in the pass offense.
So, Rodgers has to play with a bunch of green receivers for a year.
That’s going to go over well, I’m sure. And each time some newbie drops a potential game winning touchdown pass, and Rodgers goes on some web based talk show, that looks bad on the organization all over again.
What top flight NFL free agent is going to want to come here after the Rodgers debacle (which followed the Fabre debacle), and now seeing Davante Adams leaving a team that mismanaged his negotiations, and reportedly accepted less money to move to a new franchise at age 30?
This is the social media age. Players talk now, more than ever. And perceptions matter more than ever. The Packer FO, and the entire organization, has egg on its face.
And we’re now counting on a FO that took Jordan Love instead of the one weapon that might have put us over the top, and Kevin King over TJ Watt, to fix it all?
Oy 🤦🏻♂️
My confidence in this executive group is at an all-time low. If this was the eventual outcome with Adams, we could have gotten the same picks, and yet maybe saved some face in the process.
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Disagree on the rookie receivers being useless. Vikings Justin Jefferson and Bengals Ja'Marr Chase contributed strongly in the first year.
Just find one of those.
i draft 2wr's with the 2 firsts. clayton duper
@PackLandVA posted:Maybe no Bambi, but there was a Lamb that was a brother.
Lamb we can accept, but call us Bambi and we’ll cut you.
@PackLandVA posted:Maybe no Bambi, but there was a Lamb that was a brother.
We got a Romeo and a Lovie.
@Tschmack posted:Stafford is in the last year of his deal, is he not? Given the QB market if he hits FA some other team may throw big money at him.
As for Robinson, since when did he become an elite receiver?
Um, who was throwing to him and who was calling plays? He was on the cusp in JAX before signing onto the black hole.
@13X posted:Or they could actually learn to manage their players a bit better and find a happy medium without having to have the face of the franchise call them out on it before making any changes.....
"Manage" doesn't mean coddle and give in to every demand. These f-ers make millions for playing a game. If he was upset because they didn't immediately pony up $30 million in early negotiations, then good riddance. If the NFLPA isn't careful, the sport will go the way of baseball and lose the interest of the average fan. It may take a while, but it will happen. Hard to find a bigger football fan than me - hell, before the internet I subscribed to the Press Gazette, which arrived about a week after the publication date, just to keep up with the Packers. If I'm starting to get turned off by the big business the NFL has become, I think many others may be as well.
@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:Jeff Query
Bill Schroeder
@YATittle posted:Disagree on the rookie receivers being useless. Vikings Justin Jefferson and Bengals Ja'Marr Chase contributed strongly in the first year.
Just find one of those.
Rodgers would have ignored them both as rookies.
Did SteveLuke take over LambeauSouth's account?
@ammo posted:Not fibbing here, I have a neice named Bambi Lamb. She is my wife's sister's girl.
Bambi Lamb, whoa-oh black betty.
Sorry. When I read her name, that song popped into my head
@SteveLuke posted:Rams adding Allen Robinson, Chiefs adding Juju, Bucs adding Russell Gage at WR and the Pack loses Davante Adams from what was not exactly a stellar group of WRs but nothing to see here, move along.
Fat and stupid is no way to go through life son.