Davante Adams Traded to the Raiders

@Tavis Smiley posted:

I find this lovefest over Robinson pretty hilarious. Everyone seems so devastated that GB missed out on him with the loss of Adams.  Have I missed something? Guy is solid, but isn’t the 2nd Coming and I doubt the gap between him and some other guys still available is that huge.

He's a quality wr. Even had they kept Adams, Robinson would slide easily into the 2 spot ahead of everyone on the roster. His name was mentioned a week or two ago, well before Adams was gone. He's not the caliber of Adams. No one claimed that. This "devastation" you speak of is in your own head because the trade sparked a discussion and Robinson happened to be signed on the same day. On the short list of FA wrs, Robinson was on the upper end if not top 3, and probably would have fit nicely in this offense.

@Pakrz posted:

Fat and stupid is no way to go through life son.

You forgot drunk.  Or maybe it's stupid, fat and stupid.

Davante Adams and Derek Carr were college teammates at Fresno State, but now they are next door neighbors as undeniable pillars of the Las Vegas Raiders franchise.

Adams left the Green Bay Packers by way of a blockbuster trade on Thursday night. Though he was originally slapped with the franchise tag by Green Bay, the Packers brass was able to work out a trade with the Silver and Black. This is a massive move for the Raiders, as they get arguably the best wide receiver in football. He will now be catching passes from one of his closest friends.

With new head coach Josh McDaniels taking over, the Raiders could have one of the most explosive offenses in the entire league going forward.

@Goldie posted:

With new head coach Josh McDaniels taking over, the Raiders could have one of the most explosive offenses in the entire league going forward.

lol. Josh McDaniels. How’d things work out the last time he left Daddy Belichick?

Seeing both Brandt and Wilde harping on the timing of the best offer from the Packers. I'm sure Davante would have liked to have seen it a year ago, but unless the team was negotiating in bad faith (no evidence of that) the timing of the offer was just part of the process and really a non-issue.

Evidence seems pretty strong that his preference was to play for the Raiders. His choice and the implication of a massive FO blunder seems unjustified.

I'm just saying Carr and Adams must have experimented just a little as college roommates for him to be dead set on moving in next door... I'm guessing their yards aren't gonna be fenced off. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Davante Adams:
🔹Received a 3 year, $67.8M deal ($22.6M APY)
🔹Disguised as a 5 year, $140.2M deal ($28M APY)

There is zero chance he makes it to years 4 & 5 on the deal - these years are intentionally bloated to artificially boost him up to claim the "highest paid WR" title.

— Ken Ingalls - Packers Cap 💰 (@KenIngalls) March 19, 2022

Numbers make it pretty clear Adams just wanted to go to LV.

@SteveLuke posted:

Jason Wilde talking about the FRONT OFFICE'S spin (bought hook, line, and sinker by the usual suspects) on Davante's departure.

https://wisconsinondemand.com/podcasts/wilde/

Actual numbers from the contract show that Wilde is completely wrong. Adams camp broke off talks for a number they didn't even come close to getting.

Haven't heard or read specifically what Brandt & Wilde are saying about timing, but with Rodger's situation last offseason not sure how far GB wanted go back then with an extension for Adams. Had Rodgers walked after '21, having a +$25mm/yr nearing 30yo WR doesn't fit in a rebuild. Seems to me they had to know what AR was doing before they could get serious about extending DA for big money/commitment.

Being a 30 minute plane right away from family is a big deal, especially as the kids get older. Pandemic meant grandma and grandpa missed out on a lot the first couple years.

The chance to play with DC was also a big factor. Packers could have thrown 30M at him, don't think it would have mattered once the Raiders were willing to get to where they did.

Boggles my mind how many in the media are now writing off the Packers. This team will be fine. 12 has not choice but to spread it around now that his security blanket is gone. Packers are also in a position to draft a real 3 down hogger to pair up with KC...or a guy to replace Lowry.

Now is the time for Gutey and his draft team to shine.

If Gute is such a Thompson disciple, maybe they should convert Gary to a TE since he’s such a bust on defense

Nah, switch him to tackle.

Can't beat'em, join'em!

Link (paywall)

Adams and his agent, Frank Bauer, cut off extension talks with the Packers before training camp last year because the Packers, in the eyes of Adams’ camp, were unwilling to make Adams the highest-paid receiver in the league at the time. Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst, however, said Adams deserved to be the highest-paid wideout in the NFL. When asked how their definitions of “highest paid” differed, Gutekunst declined to elaborate.

One source said the Packers were unwilling to recognize Hopkins’ $27.25 million average annual salary as legitimate in terms of being the highest average annual value among wide receivers, likely because his average annual salary could be seen as inflated because of the years and salary tacked on to his deal by the Cardinals when he was traded from the Texans.

Most of this has been previously reported and just shows how unjustified the FO bashing is. Talks were broke off because of the Hopkins number (phony just like Adams new number) and Adams settled for a number I have no doubt the Packers would have accepted at that time.

Found this very interesting.

7-0

Please find a least one tight end with hands and ability to find open spots in zones.

I guess I don’t see the angst about this on any level.

Adams was a great player for GB.  He made a business (and likely family) based decision to go to Las Vegas.  He’s likely going to retire there.   Good for him and appreciative for everything he did for the Packers.

The front office is doing what they have to do in order to keep Rodgers around.  Who would you rather have?  MVS and Adams but no 12?   So they pulled off a win win in that Adams gets paid and gets to go where he wanted to be and the Packers get 2 decent draft picks and about 20M in cap space.

They still have a very good OL, two decent RBs, a couple of guys in Lazard and Cobb that know Rodgers and the offense, and they have free agency and the draft to address the WR and TE position.  Defensively, they’ve basically kept the same group intact and let’s not forget they played pretty much all of 2021 without Bak and Jaire and Jenkins.   Those 3 guys returning are huge in that they are elite at their positions.

Assuming they add a decent WR in the draft, get another established vet in free agency and find another pass rusher to give Preston and Gary some rest this should and hopefully an ip fresh at DE and this should still be a very good team for the next couple of years.  

For once in a long time I’m excited about the draft.  Gute and his team have done pretty well in that area so let’s see who they can add and develop.  

@ammo posted:

Not fibbing here, I have a neice named Bambi Lamb.  She is my wife's sister's girl.

Bambi Lamb, whao Black Betty!

@Thunderbird posted:

Bambi Lamb, whoa-oh black betty.

Sorry. When I read her name, that song popped into my head

Oh shit, same here.  I commented and then read yours.  😁

@RatPack posted:

Found this very interesting.

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During Matt LaFleur's three seasons as coach, the Packers went 7-0 without Adams. Their last loss without him came against Detroit in 2018, when Joe Philbin was interim coach and Aaron Rodgers exited with a concussion on the opening series. Green Bay averaged 31.6 points in those seven games.

Is it possible Aaron becomes a better QB when the blinders come off? Any chance Frenchie knows this too?

Sorry for all the questions.

He’ll be forced to.

@RatPack posted:

Found this very interesting.

7-0

During Matt LaFleur's three seasons as coach, the Packers went 7-0 without Adams. Their last loss without him came against Detroit in 2018, when Joe Philbin was interim coach and Aaron Rodgers exited with a concussion on the opening series. Green Bay averaged 31.6 points in those seven games.

Is it possible Aaron becomes a better QB when the blinders come off? Any chance Frenchie knows this too?

Sorry for all the questions.

I seem to remember a certain HOF Packer QB Who became a 3 time MVP when Sterling Sharpe had to retire. His name escapes me.

Exactly. There were games when Adams was great and running free and Rodgers found him for big yards. There were many other games where Adams was covered and Rodgers still tried to hit him as other guys ran free. I'm looking forward to seeing Rodgers play within MLF's scheme and just hitting the open guy. In contrast, I recall thinking in last year's SB, "Where is Kupp?" because it didn't seem like Stafford was throwing it to him very much in the early going. Yet, when he was open, Stafford found him later to seal the game. Kupp caught eight passes on 10 targets for 92 yards; six other guys caught two or more passes as well. Jefferson was next with eight targets; OBJ had the fewest targets with three. Stafford spread the ball around.

And in that regard, I'm not sure we should sign a big-name WR only to have Rodgers try to force the ball to him. I'd rather sign a good player like Landry and plug him in. No OBJ!

Some options going forward:

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/...ers-post-davante-659

@artis posted:

He's a quality wr. Even had they kept Adams, Robinson would slide easily into the 2 spot ahead of everyone on the roster. His name was mentioned a week or two ago, well before Adams was gone. He's not the caliber of Adams. No one claimed that. This "devastation" you speak of is in your own head because the trade sparked a discussion and Robinson happened to be signed on the same day. On the short list of FA wrs, Robinson was on the upper end if not top 3, and probably would have fit nicely in this offense.

In my opinion his addition wouldn’t have had much greater impact than any of the other guys out there. Not saying I’m right, but I don’t see the gap as being that huge. “Devastation” May have been a poor choice of words and I used it in jest, but “obsession” is not. Look at all the posts regarding him.

Rasul Douglas. 3/21.

https://www.acmepackingcompany...-contract-21-million

@Fandame posted:

And in that regard, I'm not sure we should sign a big-name WR only to have Rodgers try to force the ball to him. I'd rather sign a good player like Landry and plug him in. No OBJ!

Sounds like with the Cooper restructure and the Watson trade, Landry may be heading back to Cleveland.

The Brown "restructured the contract of receiver Amari Cooper to clear about $15 million in cap space, which gives them more room to try to re-sign Landry, a five-time Pro Bowler, and Clowney, a three-time Pro Bowler, league sources told cleveland.com.

The Browns, who are going all in to try to win a Super Bowl this season, would love to have both players back, and it’s much more likely now.

The Browns parted ways with Landry last week to save about $15 million on the salary cap after granting him permission to seek a trade. But Landry wanted nothing more than to win a Super Bowl here, and he’s motivated to return now that Deshaun Watson and Cooper are here and the Browns have a bona fide chance."

https://www.cleveland.com/brow...ney-sources-say.html

So they are going to win a super bowl with a qb who sat out a year, doesn't know the offense and a bunch of new receivers in a pretty good division outside of Pittsburgh

Davante says Goodbye on Instagram

Fuck davante.

LMAO at the folks who can’t comprehend why a young wealthy person would rather work in Las Vegas than Green Bay.

Great weather, great entertainment, close to the coast, and no income tax...  vs...  cheese and beer.  

They do have cheese and beer in Vegas. I've been there.

I am really gonna miss him.  😢

They got a HoffBrau house that is modeled after the one in Munich.   I’ve been to both.  The beer wenches in Vegas are far superior.  

It isn't a comprehension problem. Just another asshole athlete that needs more money and doesn't give a fuck about anyone else other than himself.

I blame Curt Flood, the teams used to be able to make these guys do whatever the team wanted.  Then along come Curt.

I don’t blame Adams at all.  Owners and teams don’t give a fuck about players, and he’s trying to maximize his value and earnings.  

17 was a great player for the Packers.  Did things the right way.  Wasn’t a headcase or off the field problem.  Busted his ass to become arguably the best WR in football.

Vegas isn’t my thing (Arizona is) but I don’t blame him one bit for getting paid and going to a place he will likely retire.

Let’s get real about Wisconsin and the the Upper Midwest- half the the year the weather sucks ass, taxes are too fucking high and it’s not like there’s great diversity.  

Man, it's so ridiculous how that Colin Kaepernick guy always is complaining about black players being treated like....

@GBFanForLife posted:

Fuck davante.

@GBFanForLife posted:

It isn't a comprehension problem. Just another asshole athlete that needs more money and doesn't give a fuck about anyone else other than himself.

Never mind.

@BrainDed posted:

Great weather, great entertainment, close to the coast, and no income tax...  vs...  cheese and beer.  

They still have income tax. It's not like they suddenly become exempt.

No state income tax in Nevada

Yes they still have sales tax and other surcharges

Players are taxed on game checks in the states the games are played in.
All the other money from bonuses, and other contract money is not subject to taxes in NV. 

I lived 2 hours away from Vegas. I’d take Utah and Arizona all day long vs. Nevada.